Brandon Rush had 27 points last night. Jarrett Jack is having a career year. Bayless isnt playing which is sad cause sergio is ahead of him. I think its safe to say it wasnt one of KPs better deals.
Probably really early to make any assumptions on Bayless. He's a rookie, playing at one of the more demanding positions, for a coach with high expectations for that position.
Well, Bayless > Rush... But Jack >> Bayless for now. I've been somewhat disappointed with Jerryd this year. He doesn't seem to really fit our team, and is getting outplayed by Sergio, someone who he really should be ahead inthe rotation of by now. Hopefully he works hard (but smart because he should understand better what he needs to work on more than just scoring) and comes out blazing next year. That 10-15 game stretch where he was guaranteed minutes and he got 10.5ppg, 3apg and 2rpg was really nice for a rookie, imo... but other than that he has played very poorly. Oh well, our team is doing great. But damn, we'd be so good with Jack right now, imo... we'd have such a nice PG rotation with Blake and Jack (at least in my opinion... Jack seems to have really worked his ass off and has been playing very well this year).
jack PER 2005/06 12.37 2006/07 14.62 2007/08 12.98 2008/09 12.84 not improved at all and obviously not having a career year
If we just wanted to move JJ, I'm pretty sure we could have given him away for nothing. We got a projected top three or four talent in the process. I can't believe people are ready to give up on Bayless. Of course, it's just a Mixum thread, but sheesh. The guy has talent. I think some people are expecting too much from rookies. Joe Johnson took at least two or three years before he started playing at the caliber he is now.
Bayless is a guard who is big enough, strong enough, athletic enough to not get abused on defense, and he can actually become a great defender. He's an intense competitor, and we've all see how good he is at taking it to the hoop and he actually does have a decent jumper. You can see whenever he attempts to drive, two men shadow him and eliminate his lane, and he doesn't quite now how to handle that yet, but I think he will become a very good guard.
You're absolutely right. My feeling is that we've been spoiled by Roy. All of a sudden we expect every rookie who breezes through here to instantly jump in perform at a high level. I'm not going to say Jerryd will or won't pan out, but my feeling is that he's got plenty of athleticism, talent and drive, but he's pretty lean on experience having gone one and done at U of A ... and by the looks of things hasn't had many coaches who really demanded he hone his playmaking skills. My guess is that if he's going to be a starter on this team it won't be for at least another year -- assuming of course the team makes a commitment to developing him.
People just expected too much because of how he performed at the summer league, but that's pretty common actually. Guys who perform in summer league can still have two or three years in the NBA before they reach a high level. Look at John Salmons for pete's sake. It seemed like that guy was in the summer league for about four or five years in a row, now he's playing good ball for the Bulls.
Good player/ maybe not a good fit. I was happy when we acquired him, but at this point I think it is 50/50 he winds up being traded. If Nate saw the same positives in his game that we do, he wouldn't be sitting behind Sergio.
Yeah, we're a playoff team...rookies don't usually break into the playoff team rotation....unless there's an injury as in the case of Webster.
That's not necessarily true. I think Nate likes his game, but it's obvious that Rudy plays better with Sergio, and Nate needs a passing point guard to get all the scorers involved on the second unit. Bayless needs to replace Blake eventually, but he's not ready to do that. While Blake isn't much of a passer, he does know when to shoot and when not to shoot. That's what Bayless needs to learn. When to take over, and when to pass. He's being groomed to be the starter, not the backup.
1 season always determines everything. Actually, one game. This is like a kingspeed thread. Come on, that's such a reach.
But isn't that part of the point? Of the 4 rooks, why is Bayless the one on the super short leash? The obvious implication is that Nate doesn't have the same degree of faith in him.
Brandon Rush...supposedly one of the most polished, NBA-ready prospects in the draft (and already 23 years old, a 4 year college player): 7.7 PER. A 15 PER is an average NBA starter. A 10 PER is about the limit for a productive reserve. Rush is at 7.7. For comparison, Telfair's PERs in Portland: 9.7 and 13.0 Adam Morrison's rookie season: 7.9 PER Rush has the distinction of being sub-Morrison. Pritchard clearly was robbed. He gave up a career reserve in Jack and a not-even-NBA caliber player in Rush for a player who has always been considered a high-level talent. Bayless has sucked so far this season, but he wasn't considered near his ceiling at draft time like Rush. He was a one-year college starter, and played out of position that year. He's gotten very few minutes this season and very inconsistent ones. Neither Rush nor Jack is making this deal look bad. Even if Bayless totally busts (and I don't think he will), the most the team lost was a mediocre back-up point guard. They don't grow on trees, but they're worth giving up for the chance at a long-term starter.
