Sun-Times Files For Bankruptcy

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  1. Денг Гордон

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    I don't not like my parents.

    I have the grades to transfer into almost any university in the country. I'm looking at transferring to UCLA, Texas, FSU, Northwestern, or Columbia, with Arizona as a safety. Those schools give you good connections in the film industry. And there is always so much work that is needed, whether it is editing videos for a news station or online company.

    And Russian is a good safety net. There are a lot of unfilled government jobs that are in need of Russian, but there just aren't qualified individuals to fill the jobs.
     
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    In fifty years there aren't going to be anymore russians, at least on the eastern end of russia. You're a lot better off learning Mandarin. And I have a friend who is an emmy winning feature reporter in Minneapolis. Even he got a one week furlough. Stick with journalism. Once things settle down again there will be a renaissance for news in some sort of hybrid print/electronic way. If not, we're screwed because fewer people covering things like local government and business means a lot more opportunity for corruption. Even with the two papers in Chicago, that city is still run in a back alley underhanded kind of way. It will only get worse if the Trib isn't constantly snooping around.
     
  3. Денг Гордон

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    I don't think Journalism is going to really rebound all that much. It was having problems way before the economic crisis. It will rebound some, because right now, the journalists were kind of hit off guard, as most people in print were just mocking the internet at a platform for news. The "print" rack, really teaches you very little about print now here, and is mostly about online now. I don't understand why they just don't get rid of the print track, keep a few print courses to teach whatever fundamentals are needed, and then just merge the print with the convergence track. I'm not really worried about not being able to find a job. My grades are good and I would be able to take advantage of the Mizzou Mafia, and with that, I should not have much problem finding a job. We probably have the best job placement for journalists. Maybe Northwestern is a little better. But it seems like a real waste to pay for a Journalism in common sense. I really don't need to pay out a lot of money to be taught to use common sense and critical thinking and to be taught how to make and edit media that I already know how to make. And beyond that, it's not particularly interesting to do for me. I was undecided on what to make my major when coming out of high scool, between Journalism, Radio-TV-Film, and Engineering. Almost everyone around me pushed for Journalism, and I made a mistake in not going to a university with my second choice major, so I'll need to transfer out. I don't see any point in continuing something that I don't want to do. It'll end up being a waste of money and time, and I'll probably just end up back in school for something else in a few years anyway. I realized I like writing about the Bulls, not actually doing Journalism...well more, not actually doing all the tedious reporting on stuff I don't care about. What I do on my site is a form of journalism. If I want to expand and do some reporting, I can just get press credentials and expand from there.

    And by not liking to do reporting, I should rephrase that. The problem isn't with reporting. It's with being on the tedious beat, out reporting everyday. If I was on the beat about the Bulls everyday, no problem. Probably the same thing with the Cubs, Packers, or other NBA, MLB, and NFL teams. But very few people get those, and getting those, you will be really late in their careers. I don't really want to do something I hate for 18 years, before I am at a stage in my career where I can do something I like, such as covering the Bulls beat for a paper.

    I also don't think this university is academically stimulating enough. All of the classes are really easy and are actually a step down from what I was doing in high school. With my grades from my first year here, I will be able to transfer into almost any university in the nation (of course not a place like Harvard, since they don't do transfers anymore!!!), and that's an opportunity that I think I would be foolish to pass up.
     
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  4. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    NYTimes opens a new building for the Stanford Daily.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/micha..._will_be_left_standing_after_the_deluge_.html
    Keller: Times will be 'left standing after the deluge'

    POLITICO'S Tim Grieve reports:
    STANFORD, Calif. -- New York Times executive editor Bill Keller spoke at Stanford Thursday to mark the opening of a new building for The Stanford Daily -- an event he acknowledged might feel a little like a "ribbon-cutting" for "a new Pontiac dealership."

    Among Keller's observations about the "unnerving future" of newspapers:
    On the NYT: Keller predicted that the Times will be "left standing after the deluge." Noting that readers have offered to donate money to keep the Times alive, Keller suggested that GM probably isn't getting similar offers.

    Commenting on the keep-the-Times alive movement, Keller said: "Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause."

    On CNN: Keller said it's hard to remember that the letters stand for Cable News Network when reporting is replaced by "juries of commentators" behind laptops on a set that looks like "a parody of a 'Daily Show' parody" of a news set.

    On Newsweek: Citing Newsweek's plan to focus more on features, Keller asked, "I don't know what they're going to do about the magazine's title."

    On the Web: Keller said that the Internet still isn't a source for much "indigenous"
    reporting, but that a few outlets -- Talking Points Memo, POLITICO and the Smoking Gun archives among them -- have won big followings and "respect."

    On Google and other news aggregators: "If you're inclined to trust Google as your source for news -- Google yourself."
     
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    Have you ever considered the possibility that the people ostensibly covering corruption have just as many incentives and opportunities to be corrupt as everyone else?

    Expecting hard coverage of local government and business is not much different than expecting hard coverage out of local papers when it comes to local sports teams. Everyone knows there are lots of limits to what you can and can't say and expect to ever get an interview again.

    Anyway, there are some alternatives, as I mentioned above. I don't know that those things will work great, but I take comfort in knowing that the current system that's falling apart really doesn't work for shit either.
     
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    The government won't bail out the NY Times if they do go under, they will call Moral Hazard and let them die.

    The reason they bailed out the big banks is because they were so indebted to each other, investors, and institutions around the world that their collapse would have been catastrophic for the U.S. and world economy. When Lehman Brothers went under lending froze for everyone and the stock market went into a nose dive, and that was just one of the smaller banks on Wall Street. AIG, on the other hand, has trillions of dollars in commitments around the world so it's going under would have been... let's just say bad.

    GM and Chrysler will eventually file for bankruptcy but the government is trying to prepare them and the US economy for that. Something people forget is that once a company files for Chap. 11 bankruptcy they don't stop doing business they just reorganize.

    Needless to say the NY Times going bankrupt won't have anywhere near of the economic effect of AIG or even the auto industry (which will eventually go under), and the political fallout for bailing out someone else would be devastating for a lot of politicians careers so if the NY Times does fail the government will let it.
     
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    Journalists caught off guard? Oh, the irony :)
     
  8. Денг Гордон

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    Yup. If the New York times goes out of business, there will still be news online and on TV, and also by other New York newspapers if they're still around.
     
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    sure, but the more people covering the issue, the more expensive it is to bribe them all, and it's more likely that one of those covering the issues is honest.
     
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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090405/ap_on_bi_ge/nytimes_globe
     

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