Ric Bucher Likes OKC Over Blazers In A Few Years

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  1. rocketeer

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    did you really waste your time defending that statement?
     
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    And who put a cap that only the top 10 NBA players are superstars? So the 11th best player in the NBA is not a superstar? Seems like an imaginary requirement for being a superstar don't you think?
     
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    Absolutely I do.

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    By your definition. A lot of people (not just Ed) don't think one season cements status like "superstar."

    I think there's a balance. I think Roy has played like a superstar this year, but I'd also like to see more than one season of it before I label him a definitive superstar.
     
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    Rasheed Wallace?
     
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    Thank you. I'm glad we don't have to dance around that.
     
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    #2 on my all-time Blazer PF list behind Maurice Lucas?
     
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    I don't understand what you want me to answer.

    Are your questions rhetorical?

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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I don't think that's what he's saying at all. In fact, I know it's not. Here's his exact words:

    So, how many top 10 seasons has Durant had? ZERO. Roy's currently having ONE. If you buy his whole track record argument, Roy is clearly closer to being a superstar than Durant, yet he argues the opposite.

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    Well, since I already defeated you, it's time to pick on a new target. :biglaugh:
     
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    Well, I know it's pretty elementary but I wasn't not sure you understood it.

    Are you mocking me for pointing out the obvious, or mocking me for explaining something you disagree with?

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    I'm wondering when Minstrel stops throwing good money after bad tonight at Ed.
     
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    i didn't mention the word superstar in the post you quoted.
     
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    if i'm mocking you, it's because your statement that any single season is likely a fluke is ridiculous.
     
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    No problem. I don't see him crashing back to earth, and I don't EXPECT him to be worse. I just have doubts that he'll take another step up.

    Hope I'm wrong. :)

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    I do love how this turned into an argument over how awesome the team is... except for PapaG, who's arguing with random people about how awesome *he* is... but anyway.

    It's a great situation to be in, arguing over whether Roy is awesome, or super-duper awesome. :ghoti:
     
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    have you had those same doubts the past two seasons? and if you don't expect him to be worse and you do expect him to continue to put up top 10 production, at what point does that top 10 production turn him into a top 10 player?
     
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    You think that any single season is indicative of a player's true capabilities? Really?

    Do you think any single game is indicative? Or any given week? Or a given month?

    A season is very arbitrary and while it's a good place to collect data and examine, I don't think that there's much evidence that a single season worth of stats is more valuable than, say, three seasons.

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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I think there's a balance. I think Roy has played like a superstar this year, but I'd also like to see more than one season of it before I label him a definitive superstar.[/QUOTE]

    And exactly how many top 10 seasons has Kevin Durant had? Ed labeled him a much more likely superstar than Brandon Roy, but his own "track record" argument refutes that claim.

    If Roy can't be considered a superstar (or potential superstar) after one top 10 season, how can Durant be consider a likely superstar with even less of a "track record"?

    BNM
     
    Boob-No-More, Apr 4, 2009
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