Lots of discussion in this forum is based on what what should and should not be a foul. So, I thought its worth it to just quote what the official rules say as a reference. http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_12.html?nav=ArticleList Also, from "NBA's Misunderstood Rules": http://www.nba.com/nba101/misunderstood_0708.html
you're right, except for this one. but besides that, they're great. Hand Checking: A defender may not place and keep his hand on an opponent unless he is in the area near the basket and the offensive player has his back to the basket. A defender may momentarily touch an opponent with his hand anywhere on the court as long as it does not affect the opponent’s movement (speed, quickness, balance, rhythm).
That's where the gray area enters in. Blazer fans are convinced that Artest and Battier (really? Battier?) are beating up on Roy all game. Rockets fans see that as incidental/marginal/momentary contact that is within the rules of perimeter defense.
Thats true, you're right. But what I don't understand is... Roy is getting to the line more than anyone in the series, so why the complaints?
Because if the refs called it as it's happening, Roy'd be going to the line 26 times a night instead of 8-12. The guys doing the handchecking aren't getting called for it. Some random scrub is getting called for the contact that happens after the foul. They're calling reputation. The simplest way of putting it: If Roy were Kobe, then Artest, Battier, and Yao would have fouled our of Games 3 and 4.
Don't over do it. Because we've played the Lakers and that didn't happen. This isn't middle school basketball, this is the NBA. Some of you Blazers fans need to realize that and Brandon Roy isn't as good as Kobe, like this forum seems to think.
What the grabbing, hip checking and pushing do is throw off the timing of the offense. You don't need to impede someone to be effective. If you can delay them from getting to the spot they want to by a split second, you've succeeded. And those things are all fouls.
Roy this year performed as well as Kobe this year in a a few statistical categories (clutch FG%, PER). Career-wise, Roy isn't there. Obviously. Regardless, your team has a reputation, and is being given the benefit because of that reputation. Don't deny it.
That's because you adjusted to play K*be. You wouldn't play him the same way. Look, I hate K*be more than any other player in the NBA, but he's on a different level than Roy. I haven't seen anyone on this forum suggest today Brandon Roy is better than KoMe Cryant.
And thats why Oden and Pryzbilla are always in foul trouble. Especially Oden, how can people even make a case for him? JVG put it best when he said "Oden is going to foul out of any NBA game he will play."
You realized just because Roy is getting to thin line, doesn't prove that Artest and Battier aren't getting away with a lot of fouls. This is extreme, but say they committed a foul every time Roy drove the ball, but they only got called for half of them. Roy would get 10-14ft attempts, but would have missed out on another 10-14ft attempts that he earned as well. If that started to happen, Houston would have to help earlier and more often, leaving others wide open.
Yeah, that was such a great call because he's fouled out in less than 10% of his games. JVG nailed it didn't he???
He sure did because Oden doesn't know how to play defense without fouling. Whats his foul per game average? Yeah, definitely, Roy should be going to the free throw line 30 times per game. Since thats the only way Blazers can earn points. Keep complaining...according to your DOUBLE theory - Oden should be fouled out not once, but twice because I'm sure refs miss the other half of the times he fouls Yao. Oh, and dont forget Joel.
What was Yao's during his rookie year? EDIT 2.8, not bad. But he's averaging 3.3 this year. I suppose it's a lot higher in losses, like Game 2, huh? EDIT: Oh look, he averages the same number of fouls in wins and losses. WHY IS HE GETTING SO FEW NOW?
I thought he said he will foul out in every game? Do you think being right 10% of the time is a good percentage?
Probably better than Oden, but it doesn't have anything to do with JVG statement being wrong. That would be like me saying Roy is going to score 30 points in every game this season, and then have him do it 8 times. I don't know who would consider that an accurate statement or prediction.
