I'd be content with us signing one of the old FA PGs (Kidd, Miller, Bibby) IF we could also draft the PG of the future to come up and replace the geezer some time in the next three years or so. And the PG of the future is NOT Bayless. And I guess Sergio has to be some other team's PG of the future. So, in other words, replace Blake, Sergio AND Bayless with Miller and Brandon Jennings/Ty Lawson/Eric Maynor (assuming Rubio is unattainable). Fair?
So you're saying we ditch Sergio, Bayless & Blake, sign a pricey free agent PG and try and move up in the draft far enough to obtain one of the better college PG's. To a certain degree it makes sense but I think the chances of KP doing this is nil.
Bayless IMO is going to be a better PG to play along side Roy then anyone in this years draft even including Rubio. I wouldn't mind signing a vet PG this summer and let Bayless learn from him in the next couple years. I think to go out and draft another PG which IMO isn't going to be as good as Bayless just makes no sense.
Well to get one of the better PGs, we're gonna have to move up into the lottery. I don't see how we could do this at this point unless a team is in total salary dump and we take on a really crappy contract.
Even I would be very happy to see this. Amazed, but happy. I actually like the kid, and he's great fun to watch. If we didn't already have two very good SGs I wouldn't see him as a piece to be moved but as a great Eddie House/Louis Williams spark off the bench.
...which would preclude signing a free agent, true. Of course, if the salary dump is Baron Davis, then we get the veteran PG without having to sign him!
Nope not fair. Out of the 3 PG you mentioned above, only one is still capable of defending at his position. One (Bibby) has never been capable of defending at the PG position. In fact, through 3 quarters of the Atlanta/Cleveland game yesterday, Bibby had 0 points and 0 assists. Jason Kidd was getting burned so often at PG that they had to bring in JJ Barea and move Kidd to shooting guard. Secondly, you have no idea if Bayless is the PG of the future. Your just spouting your opinion. I believe your opinion is vastly wrong. Because we have Brandon Roy, we need more of a "Byron Scott" at PG. That means we need a guy to take the pressure off of Roy, generate his own offense, and play tough D. Bayless can fill that role. If anything the playoffs should have taught you is that a guy who can generate offense on his own and fill up the hoop has true value when it is playoff time. Portland's lack of guys who can generate their own shots was evident. Bayless is a guy who can do that. He has always had a knack for filling up the hoop.
Byron Scott is an interesting and perhaps apt comparison ... unfortunately as good as Brandon Roy is at facilitating the offense he's no Magic Johnson. My opinion is that Jerryd will have to at least become somewhat proficient at running the offense and getting teammates more involed than Scott and his 3 APG career average.
Maybe. But maybe just having a PG who actually attacks the rim, sucks in the defense, and puts pressure on the D to react would be nice for a change. Have you actually ever gone out and checked out how many free throws that Blake and Sergio shot throughout the year? Free throws are a very good indicator for determining how much your PG is attacking the paint. Steve Blake 75 free throw attempts in 2,188 minutes. Sergio 77 free throw attempts in 1,255 minutes. Bayless 103 free throws attempts in 655 minutes. Therole of the PG besides being a distributor is to put pressure on the defense by attacking the paint. The facts are, that Steve Blake and Sergio are incapable of doing so. So for me, it's pretty much hope that Bayless turns out good, or pray to the dark ones that KP deals for talent.
Exactly. Get back to me when Bayless shows the least ability as a distributor. I'm with you on the penetration stuff: the reason I want Blake gone is because he can't penetrate at all. But is it too much to ask for a PG who can actually do both? I dare to dream.
Perfect. Sign a guy like Miller and let Bayless learn the ropes from him for 2 years while playing 12-15 minutes a night.
You ask, I answer: 1. He's a superstar-level PG who is still young. 2. He can penetrate AND distribute. AND score. 3. He signed to a big contract and then had an off year (exactly like... Chauncey Billups!) 4. He's a damn smart guy and I think he's very similar to Oden, only extroverted, and might connect with him. 5. He's with the Clippers. Who will have a high pick. And have a cheap owner, who might want to shave some salary. So he's probably gettable and might bring a pick with him. 6. First round of the 2007 playoffs: Baron = best player in the league. 7. I want to see him and Oden in a beard-growing contest. 8. I think, like Paul Pierce, he's tired of being a good player on crappy teams. He's ready to knuckle down and sacrifice for a title. Of course, there's a strong chance I could be disastrously wrong. I would be fucking AMAZED if Pritchard acquired Davis, though. Perhaps even more amazed than if Bayless turned into a PG.
I dont get why so many people completely discount the ability of Bayless to become a PG. He has always played like a SG because that has been the roll he was asked to play. When he was drafted, there was an interviews from both KP and Bayless on this very topic and Bayless himself told the reporter that he has the ability to be a good passer, he played that way in High School, but in college he was needed to be a scorer first. KP regarded him very highly as a PG in the draft because he was (is) confident he can make the transistion to a PG and less a combo guard. During the few minutes he saw during the reg season, he was either playing garbage minutes or he was playing at SG and was the only scoring threat on the floor. In Summer League he was again asked to show his offense, not his distributing skills. I am REALLY hoping that this Summer and into training camp Nate and crew push him into a PG roll and we can finally see if he will be "The Man". Just like Oden and Webster, this is a BIG off season for Bayless. Those 3 (with good off seasons, good improvements, breakouts, whatever) could very possible turn our little 54 win, 1st round loss team in to a 60 win Conf contender next year. Like soo many things, time will tell.
I agree he's got a superstar level ego, but he's never been all that efficient. Secondly, 29 isn't all that 'young' when a guy has missed 20-30+ games in six of his ten seasons as a pro He's a career 40% shooter from the field and 32% from three, secondly 70% of his shots were jumpers last year and he had a paltry 7% draw foul rate last season .. but yes he can distribute the ball pretty well. When did Chauncey have an off-year after signing a new contract, and what does that have to do with Baron Davis? That makes no sense. I have almost no doubt the Clippers would be thrilled to rid themselves of Baron's overpaid butt ... that tells me everything I need to know about whether or not we'd want him. Agreed. Baron was great in that series and he's always been a productive post-season performer, but on the wrong side of thirty next season and with his history of injuries I'm not real confident about him holding up. They don't have to be teammates for this to happen. What makes you think he's ready to "knuckle down"? He's never shown a great ability to play with pain and has been incredibly injury prone throughout his career. You even admit there's a strong chance you could be disastrously wrong, that seems like an awful lot of risk for a guy who has never been all that durable. Yeah I'd be amazed too, in a "what the fuck just happened" kind of way As for Bayless who knows.
Hmm Davis is 30. That's not young. He also had a 14.8 PER this season, which is about average and nowhere near superstar level. I was all in favor of acquiring Davis five years ago. Now? His contract is ridiculous and it's unclear whether he will bounce back. I'd pass on Baron Davis and I am not sure that any PG we'll be able to acquire in this draft will be the same level of guard prospect that Bayless is. In other words: I don't much care for your plan here, sir. Ed O.
This, except I am very sure only one PG in the draft will be the same level of prospect as Bayless, Ty Lawson. All the rest are serious projects who are years away from making a real impact on a playoff caliber team.
