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  1. hasoos

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    Re: UPDATED Scoop On Outlaw

    Sounds to me like a confidence issue. He has reason to be worried, surely.
     
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    maybe he should book an appointment with Martell's shrink?

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    How in the world can data show someone is more fundamental than another person?

    That being said, I think a lot of Blazers fans are suffering the same thins with Martell that L*ker fans did when Vagynum was out. In that he suddenly got a lot better than what he really was. Webster has never been anything more than an inconsistant player.
     
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    Is that a joke or does Martel have a shrink?
     
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    Martell did see a sports psychologist after his second season ... I seem to recall Jason Quick writing about it at the time.
     
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    as Nik stated, MW saw a sports psychologist for a while reportedly because of his confidence issues. Even without Batum in the fold, I don't think either Travis or Martell have much reason to feel that a significant role on the Blazers is a given.
    My response to you was primarily about what I bolded from your quote. Rereading, I'm not sure what you're confused about.

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    Re: Here's A Scoop On Outlaw

    KP said in October that Batum was "on par" with MW defensively, not "better"
    Like when MW shut down K*be for 8 points in 2 1/2 quarters before being subbed for Travis, and K*be ended up with 37 (iirc)? In that proudest moment?
    He scored low enough that, even if I accept as truth everything you just said, our coach decided he was worth 15 mpg. Would Webs have played less, if healthy?
     
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    BTW, I like Batum a lot. I hope he and MW have an insane battle for the starting 3 position next October. I'll be ok with whoever wins, knowing that the 2nd-stringer will be good-to-great.
     
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    Re: Here's A Scoop On Outlaw

    That was before Batum had played an actual NBA game. Batum was still considered a raw, unproven project back then. Things have changed considerably over the course of his rookie season. Batum was Portland's best perimeter defender, by a pretty wide margin. Webster has never been anything more than mediocre defensively. Not awful, but not good.
     
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    Re: Here's A Scoop On Outlaw


    So a guy who stunk in the Summer League and who had never played an NBA game was "on par" with Webster defensively? I'm wondering how that sheds a positive light on Webster's defensive ability.
     
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    Re: Here's A Scoop On Outlaw

    Batum stunk on offense, he definitely showed flashes of his defensive prowess in the summer league. Webster I think you would have to classify as an improving, but mediocre defender (decent to good team defender, subpar man defender) before he got hurt.
     
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    My bad. I thought that maybe, you know, KP's idea of talent distribution among his own players may be worth something in this conversation. Sorry.
     
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