great response. can you give me like 47 more reasons why 4th place isnt really 4th place? And then I'll give you my one reason why 4th is 4th.... It's 4th. here's a few more though just for fun: The vastly overrated Portland Trailblazers won 54 games finished 4th in the West finished tied for the division lead and lost on a tie breaker for the 2nd seed in the west. They did not kind of finish 7th based on Utah and 5th because New Orleans maybe would have kind of should have come in 4th 1 game sort of 2 losses more than kind of should have finished 8th lucky sort of.
