Chauncey Billups Calls Out Lebron James

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    LeBron has gotten away with suspendible hits on Chris Webber and Wade, it happens all over the league.

    To me you're also over-reacting then. The elbow to Artest was far from classless, and he tried once more to fake another head injury in game 6 that the league later reviewed and rescinded a tech. Trash talking during a game? I mean you do have Ron on your team too and I like it actually to a degree, depends on the circumstance but I feel telling someone you can't guard them is fine. Can't believe he even got a tech for that.

    The dumb part was having a day to think about it and coming out with that interesting reason of his. Just say you're pissed off then, there were 20+ competitors on the court that game.
     
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    Shit happens dude. The elbow was far from classless. The NBA is a contact sport, so you have to expect things like that to happen. Plus, Ron Ron completely overreacted to it, and if you're one of those Houston fans who are still hell bent on the thought that he actually got elbowed in the throat, then you're absolutely wrong.

    And really, what's wrong with trash talk? It's part of the game. If you dislike it, I don't know how you can watch your own team, because Artest is worse than any other player in the league.

    And it's not really BS. What LeBron did was classless and disrespectful. Man up, shake the other teams hand, talk to the press, and then go home and cry yourself to sleep. He couldn't bring himself to admit then and there that the Cavs were not the better the team.
     
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    I was referring to the dirty elbow and knee Kobe delivered to Battier, clearly intentionally, when he was laying on top of him. I was referring to the constant trashing talking and posturing from Lamar Odom and Kobe Bryant during game 2 whenever they scored on Scola or Battier. And that ridiculous body check from Fisher. When all of that is just fine-and-dandy while walking off the court quietly in a loss is not, then this notion of "class" and "sportsmanship" in today's NBA is worthless.
     
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    They gave Kobe a touch tech to make up for Shane but that still wasn't flagrant contact, then Artest used every opportunity to try and get him ejected.

    Ah Fisher of course, I never condoned that and Laker fans are not in love with Derek either.

    Again the trash talk you still have a problem with? I still don't see it. That's quite normal.
     
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    Man up? Yeah, because you would have handled that sooooo much better.



    Board is fucking failing today.
     
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    Those were dirty and classless actions. I'm sure Laker fans would acknowledge it. I don't care if LeBron doesn't want to talk to the media after losing, but I do think it's petty of him to not shake hands in defeat. He's not above the game of basketball.

    For the actions you brought up about Kobe, Odom & Fisher. Each of them were penalized and criticized for what they did. Now it's simply LeBron's turn to face the music so to speak.
     
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    How I would have handled it has nothing to do with this. How the hell do you know how I'd have handled it anyways? Do you know me? Didn't think so, so fuck off.

    As a pro athlete, you need to learn how to handle losing before you can ever be a winner. LeBron is an arrogant ass who think he's above the rest of the league and shit like this is why I don't like him.
     
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    It's quite normal for classless players. Yes. And the two players I mentioned took it to a ridiculous degree in game 2. If showing class means respecting the opponent, that's a far greater offense than what LeBron did.

    It's just funny how there are these unwritten rules on when players are obligated to "show class". You can act like a jerk during games, cuss out officials, commit dirty fouls, taunt opponents, and no one calls that classless. That's just "being competitive". But when you lose, you have to walk to the winner and express contrats to them then and there. Why? Because it's just how it is. Whatever.

    LeBron should have done the press conference though. That's his responsibility. LeBron's usually good with the media, so a mere warning is appropriate. If it becomes a pattern for him down the road, then fine him.
     
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    It was petty. But I consider it a minor offense compared to playing the game like a hooligan. I appreciate you recognizing those as dirty and classless actions, but a few of your fellow Laker fans who are expressing the most anger over LeBron's actions were defending or making light of it at the time. To me, that's hypocrisy.
     
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    From this post, I can infer that no you would not have 'been a man about it'. So you're mad at LeBron for being a doucheyhead and not 'manning up', while you have handled it a lot worse, probably ran off the court crying. wut

    Yeah, because Jordan handled losing so fucking well. He was a pretty reliable source of intra-organization shit throwing when he lost, but he got 6 rings. What a failure he turned out to be.

    You just broke the FAIL-o-meter.

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    Most arrogant ass in the whole league by far, 10 times more than LeBron. And yet this guy happens to be on your favorite team. Whoops. Looks like someone's a hypocrite.
     
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    Trash talk offends you that much? It goes on throughout the game, in fact I want to get into your head on the court.

    I said he deserved a tech for Shane... He got hit for it later on. No one feels sorry for Ron he had his elbow on Kobe's face first, then ran across the court to try and get Kobe to fight him.

    I really don't care what LeBron did, but you're hyping up the hooligan factor.
     
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    All I'm saying is its hypocritical to get all riled up over what LeBron didn't do, while giving the Lakers a pass on their behavior. It doesn't look like you're doing either, so this doesn't apply to you.
     
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    Yes Kobe and Jordan are pretty arrogant and Jordan even punched a guy or two, but I don't think you need to go after what Moo would have personally done. Plenty of professionals stay on the court for the media interviews and the reasoning the day after was silly. You can take the position that the media is hyping this problem up, but people take losing better than others.
     
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    Wow, thanks man.:cheers: :wub:
     
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    Oh. So its cool to take pot shots at someone for not being a man when you can't definitively say you would have done the very you criticize him for not doing? That reeks of bullshit. Probably because it is. Practice what you preach.

    Yes, the media and the internetz is hyping up a whole bunch of nothing. I don't even know what his reasoning was, didn't and still don't care enough to look.
     
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    Tim Duncan even did it once I believe? I'm not sure. It just isn't a huge deal, but the day after was pretty funny though I won't lie.

    To me you're just going after Moo, which is against the rules. You can go after public figures, but you need to relax dude. You're always mad, you just got edited again in the Blazer forum for this topic. My point was to try to get you to chill out. Take whatever position you want, but you need to frame it better you don't know anything about Moo.
     
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    I just don't like seeing the league MVP and face of the NBA act this way and most of the media, the league, and the Cleveland organization turning a blind eye to it. Then for LeBron to try and justify it instead of being accountable and apologizing for his actions. This sense of entitlement on his part is disgusting to me and he should be embarrassed by it.
     
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    I guess that makes Duncan a classless, over-animated cockmonkey. By today's standards at least.

    Yeah, Moo's trail of thinking doesn't have more holes in it than rotting Wonderbread or anything, that can't be why I'm challenging him.

    I don't give a shit if I don't know anything about Moo. That isn't the point. He didn't definitively say that he would handle the situation any better than LeBron, so that makes him a hypocrite. Pretty simple.
     
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    I'm no big fan of LeBron's sense of entitlement either. As a personality, he doesn't impress me. But I think the media actually are making too much of it. It's a topic on all the sports tv and radio shows, days after it happened. ESPN thought it was a big enough deal to have a roundtable discussion on it. My impression is opposite yours -- I think its getting way overblown.
     
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    Most stars are classless to a degree, I don't get your point. Superstars are extremely arrogant, and his reasoning behind this doesn't make sense either. He isn't a loser, but what he said isn't true either. He's just like everyone else, he gets angry like any conceited and pampered player.

    But what is that about? I mean how do you know this and has anyone in the NBA ever done that? It just looks petty on your part as well, it looks immature dude. If you think he's a hypocrite, you're not much better either. That's not the way one should discuss disagreements.
     
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