Knicks looking to trade David Lee in a sign and trade...

Only on offense. It will be a big downgrade on defense.

 

Lee wouldn't agree to come here unless we moved one of Joel, Greg, or Lamarcus. Even if we pay him $10 million per year, I still don't think he'd be content at playing 10-15 minutes per game.

 

How about if we throw in Channing Frye?

 

... and promise not to sue them over the Darius Miles deal...

 

But what if Lee is the one who gets hurt and misses 10 games. If Lee is only averaging 12 - 15 MPG backing up Aldridge and then HE gets hurt and misses 10 games he could end up playing less than 1000 minutes for the season. I don't think that would be very satisfying for a guy who is only 26, coming off his best season, looking for a starting position and a $10 million per year contract.

If a guy is starting and averaging 33 - 35 MPG, and misses 10 games he's still going to get 2400 - 2500 minutes for the season. So, he probably won't complain about his minutes, but to put David Lee in a position where he might only play 1000 - 1200 minutes for the season doesn't seem like a good idea to me - especially when he's just entering his prime and coming off a season where he played over 2800 minutes and started 74 games.

While there is a chance one of the other big men could miss some games, I'd hate to have to "rely" on that happening to keep Lee happy and get him his minutes.

BNM

 

We could certainly get Lee his minutes if we traded Joel. But then we're going back to having the problem of pourous interior defense. And Joel's departure would totally negate the addition of Lee's rebounding.

I think we should give Joel Freeland a chance to fill the David Lee role. He's 6-11, 250, and very athletic for his size. He put up great numbers in Euro-league, and we could get him for a fraction of the cost, without giving up Joel, and he'd not complain about minutes.

We should get rid of Outlaw, and use the cap space to sign Hedo Turkoglu. He can run the offense like a PG, and we'll certainly need that next year. I'd play him with the 2nd unit, to control the game when Blake/Roy are out.

Or perhaps we could trade for Lee, then trade Aldridge for a top PG or SF, like Tony Parker or Danny Granger?

Blake/Bayless
Roy/Fernandez
Granger/Batum
Lee/Freeland
Oden/Pryzbilla

 

Granted I don't watch much Knicks games, but is David Lee really as good of a compliment to Oden as LMA? LMA has shown he can step out and hit the mid-range jumper, which is huge in the pick and roll game with Roy. Lee might be a better rebounder, but we have Oden and Pryzbilla. IDK, I wouldn't like the look of that lineup as much.

 

I'd take Aldridge over Lee every day, twice a day and all day on sunday -- Lee is a great hustle garbage man, but he's massive defensive liability and aldridge is way more polished of a scorer with a quickly evolving set of defensive skills that place him ahead of Lee by more than just a little.

And frankly, Parker and Granger are probably the last players either of their respective teams would trade.

 

I'm not saying that it wouldn't be nice to have some depth for the sake of injuries, but for the rest of the time you've got some really expensive pieces sitting on the bench. If the concern is getting LMA a high quality backup, I'd be much more inclined to get a guy like McDyess or some other veteran big with not a whole lot of miles left in the tank, but one that could be more than capable of playing 12-15 minutes a night and would be happy to do it; if there was an injury then you'd assume they could fill in the available minutes for 10-15 games in a season (or however many missed games you'd probably see out of LMA, Greg and Joel combined).

Assuming Lee gets around 8-10 million this off-season, I just think it's a lot of money to tie up into the frontcourt with LMA probably getting a near max deal, Oden the same the year after and Joel already making his 7ish million.

 

The real issue is with Joel. If he were a better offensive player, we probably wouldn't be in this situation. Unfortunately, with Joel being the offensive void that he is, we are needing some more depth at the four spot. We can't have two players in the frontcourt who are incapable of being a legit scoring threat.

 

I think they could share. Pryz is a real team player, and he knows full well that the less he abuses his body, the longer his career. His value is now known around the league, so he'll get paid well.

Lee is the question mark. I think he'd be a fool not to want to play as one of four awesome big men - but people have been foolish. Lee is a superb addition - smart, fast, hustling... love to have him here.

I echo others: Sessions and Lee for any combination of Outlaw/Sergio/Blake/picks would be PHENOMENAL. The team would be a contender next year, no question.

iWatas

 

Hard to say because we don't know what Oden will be yet. I thought LA and Oden could have great chemistry together, but they didn't last season. I don't think Lee or Oden will be good post up players, they are both clean-up players. But having two of those guys that can hit the boards can just demoralize the opposition.

 

I totally agree, which is why I would target a guy like McDyess who has a pretty nice stroke out to about 12-15 feet, other guys I would consider (not necessarily advocating) would be Chris Wilcox, Drew Gooden and other power forwards who have a little bit of inside oriented offense in their game to go with decent rebounding -- it just doesn't necessarily need to be a guy like Lee who is going to command a lot of minutes -- get the guy who will, for whatever reason, be OK with a fifteen-ish minute role and can provide some toughness and steadiness.

 

I think you're coming at this from the fan's perspective, not a player's. Guys want to play and they want to get paid, there's nothing foolish about that.

 

Power forward and center: 96 minutes per game.

Aldridge at PF: 38 minutes
Oden at PF: 10 minutes
Oden at C: 22 minutes
Joel at C: 26 minutes

TWIN TOWERS!

 

Might as well just play LMA 48 mins.

 

Fine with me. Doesn't seem like he ever gets tired! And I was just throwing the twin towers thing out there.. cause when it happened I got so excited and started yelling "TWIN TOWERS! TWIN TOWERS!"

 

Why don't we just keep Outlaw....

After that bad playoff series people have written him completely off, portland was great w/ trav at the 4 plus he can play 3 if Martell or Batum gets injured.

 

yeah bring in Joel Freeland the euro that plays almost an american style

 

Gross. I wouldn't do that.