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  1. Minstrel

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    If he has no other offers, it would be that or retirement. He might prefer retirement, but I can easily see him preferring to work with a potentially elite big man rather than do nothing.

    If he's an in-demand head coach, then he probably wouldn't be interested in a position as a big man coach for Oden.
     
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    Would anyone be surprised to know that in McHale's first stint of coaching in 2004 and in the games this year before Al Jefferson got hurt he has a .524 winning % compared to Nate's .498 winning %
     
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    McHale out as Timberwolves coach

    http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/06/17/mchale/
     
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    Re: McHale out as Timberwolves coach

    merge monster!
     
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    And that is supposed to mean what? Most teams that change coaches during the middle of the year get a bump in win improvement. So you are going to compare him taking over a team for part of a year to Nates whole career. I'll tell you what. If we are going to name the terms of what we are comparing, I am just going to compare a single game that Kevin McHale won to Nates whole career. Wow how Nate pales in comprison.......:crazy:
     
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    Dumb move by the Wolves...I thought McHale was unfairly hated on, I think he has done a good job as GM in recent years, and a wonderful job as a coach...He must have rubbed somebody the wrong way

    Wolves will be a good playoff team in two years
     
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    It means that I think it's funny that people think McHale is a bad coach, but think Nate is Jesus himself.
     
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    - Drafted Ray Allen, and traded him for Stephon Marbury
    - Made an under the table deal with Joe Smith, costing the T'Wolves multiple first-round picks
    - Traded Sam Cassell for Marko Jaric
    - Hired Dwane Casey, then fired him after 1.5 seasons for ... Randy Wittman for the 100th time
    - Drafted Brandon Roy, traded him for Randy Foye
    - First-round draft picks included William Avery, Rashad McCants and Ndudi Ebi

    He was KP before KP even existed!
     
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    To be fair, he also drafted Kevin Garnett, who was an extremely risky pick at the time...not at all a slam dunk. Many people weren't sold on Garnett, as one of the first prep-to-pro players (I think the first one other than Moses Malone much earlier).

    Plus he signed Cassell and Sprewell in the first place, both controversial moves that worked out in turning Minnesota into a title contender.

    That said, I don't think he's a good or great GM. But not quite as horrific as many claim.
     
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    He got KG, which is ONE move. But how many times was McHale criticized for not getting enough talent around him? It took the T-Wolves and KG seven straight playoff appearances before they even won a playoff series with one of the best players in the game.

    He had a once-in-a-lifetime HoF, MVP player and made it to the WCF once -- the only time they made it out of the first round.
    Not exactly a stellar GM resume... along with those other gaffes he's made.
     
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    That was my conclusion, as well. Far from stellar. But leaving Garnett out is hardly a balanced view. You can't say "He had Garnett and all he accomplished with him was a bunch of playoff appearances and one deep run as a title contender." He didn't inherit Garnett. He inherited a nothing team and, largely due to one move, made them a playoff fixture with one title contention year.

    So, sure, it was just one move. But it was a brilliant one that created a certain level of success. You can't just discount that because it's inconvenient. The team he inherited was not even close to a playoff team, it was a 20 win team.
     
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    Wasn't Shawn Kemp a prep-to-pro?
     
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    Nope. He never played college ball, but he wasn't considered a true prep-to-pro. Here's the wiki entry:

     
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    Given Shawn Kemp's procreation prowess he was probably a rabbit-hole to pro.
     
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    Glen Taylor was good friends with McHale, he had trouble letting him go.
     

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