(OT) Rumor from Boston Globe: Amare for Al Jeff + #6

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  1. illmatic99

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    illmatic99, Jun 17, 2009
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    doesnt make sense with the other rumor of him trying to get number 2 draft and 6
     
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    Al Jefferson is a solid player and not near the headache Amare is. I don't think Minnesota should have to add in the 6th pick though.
     
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    I don't think it supports or contradicts that one. Building around Rubio and Amare as your point guard/big man tandem could make some sense, if you want to institute a fast-paced offense. We know Amare has flourished in fast-paced offenses and that seems to fit Rubio fine.
     
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    if this went down.. Minny gets fleeced.
     
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    I tend to agree ... especially since it seems like Amare is the kind of guy who would like to head to a bigger market when he's a free agent next year.
     
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    For some reason Amare has been discounted tremendously on this board... he's one of the best players in the NBA, and while Al Jefferson is very good he's not nearly as good as Amare.

    Amare is only about 26 months older than Jefferson, too, so it's not like the Wolves would be trading for a guy who's too long in the tooth.

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    And suddenly Amare thinks not being the No. 1 option on Phoenix isn't so bad...
     
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    ...... Minnesota doing this deal would be idiotic. But then again, they traded Mayo....
     
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    I totally agree that Amare is being undersold as a player if we're just talking about talent. But my impression of Amare' is that he's headed for a bigger market when he hits free agency next year (based on comments, quotes, etc.) I think Minny runs a serious risk of being left with nothing at all in 12 months if they trade for the guy.
     
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    couldnt have said it better myself.
     
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    He's being discounted because of his attitude and lack of production when his team isn't in a run and gun style of offense. I agree with you he is a great talent, but Lamar Odom is a great talent too. If Amare will only play hard and produce in a old PHX style system and is going to piss and moan unless everything is structured around him, then it doesn't matter how much talent he has.
     
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    Maybe so, but the difference in talent between the two is not worth the 6th pick. That is, presuming Amare signs an extension prior to being traded.
     
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    Has that ever happened in the history of the NBA?

    A team acquiring a major player in a trade and then having him leave as a FA a year later?

    McDyess is one example I can think of, I guess... I just don't find it very likely that Minnesota would be both unable to re-sign him and unable to get value for him. It should be a consideration/fear, but I think if I were a Minnesota fan I'd rather have my GM operating out of hope than out of fear.

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    Amare has produced in a way that Odom has only dreamed of. Career PER:

    Odom: 17.0
    Amare: 22.6

    Stoudemire has produced at an MVP level (or near it) for the last three seasons that he's been healthy (26.6, 23.3, 27.6). Odom has not had ONE season like that... and in fact has never had a single season over 18.9 (his second in the NBA).

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    I may be wrong, but Jefferson seems so Z-Bo to me. Empty stats, though Jefferson, IMO, is the better player between the two.

    If I could have Jefferson or Amare? I choose Amare. Every time.
     
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    Amare was unhappy in Phoenix because he felt he was being de-emphasized for an aging, declining Shaq. In Minnesota, he'd be the clear first option, the feature big man. In addition and perhaps more important, no team could offer him as much as Minnesota could.

    People talk about how players want to bolt small cities and such, but ultimately money talks. Precious few big-time free agents leave the team that holds their Bird rights, assuming that team wants to retain them. And it's purely because the NBA makes bidding wars impossible and the most money is always at home (again, for max deal players that the team wants to keep).

    And as a "soft" factor, if Minnesota really does trade Love for the #2 pick and selects Rubio, you have to think Amare would like to play with a potentially elite fast-break and pick-and-roll point guard.

    There's a chance Minnesota could lose him, but I'd place the chance of that very, very low.
     
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    Amare doesn't get underrated, he's right where he should be. His defense is so bad it nearly negates everything he does offensively. He is the poorest defender I have ever seen in the NBA.
     
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    In your opinion, is the difference worth the 6th pick?
     
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