Will You Help Me With My Next Film? ...a request from Michael Moore

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  1. Shooter

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    Friends,

    I am in the middle of shooting my next absurdly one-sided and anti-American movie and I am looking for a few other people who hate America just as much as I do. Based on those few radicals and marxists who have already contacted me, I believe there are a number of you who are willing to sell your souls to make a few bucks, just like me. You have information that the American people don't care about in the slightest, but you are desperate to highlight anything negative about this country, so I need you! I am humbly asking you to lie and misrepresent the facts so that I can make millions of dollars on yet another movie that sucks.

    Yours,
    Michael Moore
     
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    Wow, some real pricks in this thread.
     
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    Hey, I think we've found a Michael Moore fan!!
     
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    If we look at the box office numbers of his films I would say he has lot's of fans.
     
  5. Ed O

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    It's great that Moore is going in with an open mind, to see what actually happened, rather than having an agenda and being determined to make people look like criminals.

    It'd be a shame if he sacrificed integrity for sensationalism.

    Ed O.
     
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    Oops. Shoulda read the whole thread before Quick Replying.

    I agree with TPF and Chutney, of course. :)

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    Oh, Lord. I can't imagine that happening!

    (cough, cough . . . )
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I don't see the problem here. Of course he's already got an opinion, everyone does. But more to the point, he's not going to make a documentary with the premise "everything's great on Wall Street". That isn't what he does, and it isn't what people would pay to see. So of course he's asking for evidence that it is screwed up. That's the only sort of evidence that is useful to him. If he doesn't come up with enough negative material, the movie doesn't get made.

    barfo
     
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    I would imagine the movie will get made irrespective of whether anyone responds to his plea for assistance or not.

    Ed O.
     
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    Probably so, I'd guess this is advertising more than an actual request for help. Although I'm sure he'd be happy if it did turn something up.

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    Your lack of respect for teachers is sad. I will feel bad for you when Commercial Real Estate unwinds over the next 12 months because you will want our sympathy then. Not sure why you have such a bitter hatred of all things on the left it's just strange to me.
     
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    I don't have a lack of respect for teachers. I think they do necessary work. However, I'm not going to put them up on a pedestal because they deal with children. I've known too many mediocre people who ended up in the profession.

    I don't know where you've been, but commercial real estate is already in the shitter. I'm not looking for sympathy. It's offered the greatest buying opportunity I've seen since the Resolution Trust Corporation was in business.

    Because the Left seems to be the home where results don't matter, only intentions. And my opinion of the Left isn't based on feelings, it's based on thought. I'm neither bitter nor filled with hatred toward the Left. I just believe the philosophy to be bumfuzzled.
     
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    Things I've read say that it will get much worse over the next 12+ months for commercial Real Estate, as in significantly worse. Buying now is what they call "catching a falling knife" the deals will only get better assuming you aren't wiped out in the interim. This is NOTHING like the Resolution Trust era in that America is in FAR, FAR deeper shit.


    The teachers thing is kind of silly as there are mediocre people at every level even president of the US. I don't put them on a pedestal. A number of your comments showed a definite lack of respect.

    I think that in combination with things such as No Child Left Behind and the other rather obvious assaults on public education from the right (and the left's stupid touchy feely nonsense) the general media/economic driven deterioration of society has made teaching a thankless task at best. Schools have become little more then some form of prison camp crossed with a day care.

    Teachers are woefully underpaid seeing as they require a masters degree in Oregon. The summer break is great and all but is also an excuse used to pay them very little. All in all being a teacher sucks and the pay sucks and I would offer that it is an extremely important job. Sadly curriculum has become so insanely political (Creationism, PC non-sense etc. etc.) that it has been almost completely neutered. Add in constantly increasing expenses, and constantly decreasing funding (per child) and it just all gets quite ugly.

    You sure could have fooled me that you aren't A) bitter and B) filled with at best overwhelming disgust for the left and something at least akin to hatred. I am not a fan of either the left or the right as it distracts from dealing with real issues. As it is things like gay marriage, abortion and creationism drown out critical economic, domestic and foreign policy issues. I think intent driven policy is stupid, but ends justifies the means is even worse. Judging from the last Republican Administration they are big believer in ends justifies the means (Abu Grhaib, Bhagram Airforce Base, Guantanamo, Eastern European black sites, Extraordinary Rendition etc.)
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Thanks for your opinion. I'll treasure it.

    Once again, I thank you for your opinion.

    I see from you lots of problems, but no solutions.

    The Master's Degree in Teaching is one of the most worthless exercises I've ever seen. I have several friends who had to jump through that hoop and they all agreed it was both ridiculously easy and a waste of time. It was a hoop set up by the Teachers' Union to raise the barrier to entry.

    The solutions are simple and obvious, but will never happen. And that's because the unions put the teachers ahead of the students.

    Again, I treasure your opinion about what I think. However, I can state with certainty that I know my opinion better than do you.

    It must be nice to never make a stand. Golly, you're so wise.
     
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    Oh I make stands but ones that binary partisans like yourself clearly have trouble understanding. It's clear that you THINK you understand what I'm saying but it's equally clear to me that you don't understand my positions on things. Being suckered into either parties rhetoric might equate to taking a stand in your mind but to me it's just giving the green light to more of the same we've seen in this country.

    If you want a fresh start and a new direction the only hope is to get a third party or better yet a few parties going. Best of all of course would be to have such a limited government that there was very little done nationally other then collective defense. If a community can't support itself by it's own means (local government) then it is a mistake to take the wealth and industry of another part of the country to give it to a part of the country that isn't able or perhaps willing to make changes to increase the efficiency of it's local governance. Once things become too centralized it's a certain path to corruption and I offer 233 years of American history as my evidence. I see a lot of glib comments and partisan play book stuff but not much that is going to do anything then continue forward with the kind of partisan wrangling that has positively killed this country since roughly the Kennedy era when this country became a bi-polar nightmare where either the left or the right enjoys calling the other side traitorous for their own partisan goals. Ultimately the people pay the price as has been seen in the past 37 years.

    By all means if you want more of the same continue with your "stand" I'll continue to think for myself.
     
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    Bravo! I wish more Americans understood this point. Corruption inevitably occurs in government, but the potential for true destruction is multiplied many times over when you have a large, centralized bureacracy running things. I truly fear what this country is becoming.
     
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    Wow, you don't believe in the economy of language, I see.

    Do you really believe your position is either revolutionary or original? On the contrary, it's trite and hackneyed. It's basically the platform of the Libertarians, of which I most closely identify. But if it makes you feel better about yourself that you're some kind of visionary, vaya con Dios.
     
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    Hey sorry I tried to tell you what you were feeling about liberals. Not my place. I could relate my feelings which were that it seemed your position was X. Not fair for me to state what you thought/felt. I retract that and apologize.

    No I don't think it's revolutionary or original there isn't much that is. I feel it is a reasonable position to take given the track record of the major parties. Clearly you feel that backing a "Right Wing" view is taking a stand. I'm assuming you don't feel it's either original or revolutionary either. I appreciate that you think it's hackneyed and trite. I feel your positions as I've seen them on this board seem to be fairly partisan, perhaps I'm wrong about that. Regardless, I felt I should apologize for my seeming assumption about your feelings. That wasn't fair.

    Either way you too can go with god. There really isn't any other way to go. Take care.
     
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    I agree. What worries me is that people seem to think it's great for the government and the executive branch to acrete power when their party is in power but then start calling the head of the other party a dictator the minute the polls switch. In the meantime greater and greater power is ceded from the people to government. I too am very concerned where things are going. I once was a Democrat but realized that their language and partisanship was in a very different way every bit as divisive and dangerous as the rhetoric from the Republicans. I also notice both parties loved to grant ever increasing power to the government.

    I'm kind of strange in that I believe we must recognize the importance of maintaining the environment but I also want to have as free of trade as possible as long as it doesn't impinge upon human rights and/or cause massive environmental destruction. I think we are at an inflection point and that if we don't change some of our behavior soon the consequences could be devastating. My grandfather was a Park Ranger at Glacier National Park and the stories (with pictures as proof) of the kind of bountiful fish of enormous size is a sad testament to degradation of the environment. I think you have to weigh human rights and the economy into the picture but we ignore the environment at our own peril.
     
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    Sounds like we are very similar in our beliefs. I'm a conservative, but I also value the environment, and want to see it protected.
     

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