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  1. Reep

    Reep Well-Known Member

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    I know Rubio is an unproven quantity, but it's not like he doesn't have some experience. I mean, the guy played more minutes in the U.S. v. Spain game than anyone else on either team. I know Calderon was out, but give the kid some credit for playing huge minutes against the biggest pool of talent he will probably ever see in his life.

    My biggest fear with Rubio is that he will end up just like Sergio. Sergio looked pretty impressive his first year too. Rubio has done better on the big stage and passed up Sergio on the Spanish team, but I have a hard time quantifying what Rubio does that is so much better than some of the things Sergio did when he first came in.
     
  2. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    This would make my summer.

    Hinrich's game fits our system.

    Rubio as the future PG.

    Go get it, KP!
     
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    Yep and that is what I am saying. Sergio was pretty good offensivly until teams scouted him and started playing him for the pass completely. I see the same weakness in Rubio's game. Rubio is a better defender though. I think a lot of it will come down to him being willing to put in the work.
     
  4. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Welcome out of the dark yak :cheers:
     
  5. Rastapopoulos

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    Rubio was Defensive Player of the Year in the ACB this year. At age 18.
     
  6. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Can anyone throw up a possible plan to land both Rubio and Hinrich?
     
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    I am sure he was. I am also sure he wasn't playing against Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Steve Nash, Mo Williams, Tony Parker, and Chauncey Billups there.(Note, all of them are western conference but one.)
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    You don't even have to go there. Bayless, our 3rd string PG, would blow by him every play
     
  9. MAS RipCity

    MAS RipCity Mercy, Mercy

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    I am 100% against adding a pg high in the draft. Bayless is the better than all the PG prospects this year and I like how he and Oden are developing some chemistry. It would be foolish to take such a gamble on Rubio. Roy is nearing his peak and we don't need to keep sacrificing trade chips for youth, after seeing the finals, the time is now to make our run. We are pretty damn close to being a finals contender, don't set us back another 2-3 years KP.
     
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    Outlaw/Blake for Kirk

    Sergio to NY for their T.E.

    If we were able to land the #5 pick we'll have to package it with something else to get the # 2 pick as OKC, "100%", will take Rubio at #3, according to draftexpress.
     
  11. Rastapopoulos

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    So? Bayless/Paul et. al. abuse everybody they play against. Good defense is a team effort. Rubio is very disruptive and long - he would at least make them work to get round him and pick them clean of the ball a few times. You think there aren't fast players in Europe? Earl Boykins is fast. Brandon Jennings is blindingly quick. Tyus Edney made a career out there and is as fast as anyone.
     
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    Of course he DID play against Paul, Williams and Kidd in the Olympics. And Chris Paul raved about him.
     
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    We'd probably have to sacrifice Rudy and or Batum in order to land Rubio. Not sure I'd be willing to do that.
     
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    I agree it seems likely (but who knows what Presti will do) but read the next paragraph:

     
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    MAS RipCity Mercy, Mercy

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    Contractually and Talent-wise, Outlaw and Blake is a pretty steep price for Kirk and I think we'd be overpaying by quite a bit.
     
  16. Ed O

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    Pointing out that Rubio "has done nothing" is either wrong or worthless... he's either accomplished a tremendous amount as a pre-NBA player or he has accomplished nothing as an NBA player.

    Other than LeBron James, I can't think of an 18 year-old who has accomplished MORE heading into the draft than Rubio, and if Portland has a chance to acquire him then they should do so.

    Ed O.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Dallas destroyed us, we never beat them in four matches. I would rather play Lakers than Dallas last year.
     
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    I'm sorry, but this debate is getting a little silly.

    My first choice, is for the team to add a good vet at PG. If that doesn't happen, I want them to trade up and grab the best rookie PG they can get. Bottom line: I want the team to GET BETTER, and HOW they go about doing it is not that important!

    The great, dark monster in the closet isn't adding "more youth" - it is complacency. Doing nothing is the only unacceptable outcome!
     
  19. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    they beat us 3 times. And I promise you.. you dont want the Lakers instead of the Mavericks. Oh and Orlando also swept the season series against the Lakers. Different ball game.
     
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    These rumors combine both, yeah?

    The 6-year vet in Kirk.

    And the youthful Ricky Rubio.
     

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