Draft time: Gut feeling

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    YES!! Draft to Stash!!
     
  2. BlazerBeliever

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    I am sure KP is going to do something. He has a good history of draft day trades.
     
  3. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    Trade out of the 1st round.
     
  4. LOTBfan

    LOTBfan dangling chad

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    I would trade Sergio, rights to some Euro, 3m in cash, and a second round pick for in exchange for NY taking him off our hands and maybe an Arby's gift certificate.
     
  5. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    We're trading Outlaw, Fernandez and Bayless to Memphis for Rubio and filler (Marco Jaric--he's got two years and $13 mil owed). Nate McMillan will go nuts and everybody will be scratching their heads. But it makes a ton of sense as a consolidation trade for us, and it gives Memphis a ton of options down the road.

    I just made this trade up, but it's the kind of WTF thing Pritchard would do. He goes hard after the guys he wants, and I think he sees Rubio as the answer at PG for a decade (the way he saw Roy, Aldridge and Oden as the answers at three other spots). Thunder likely take Rubio at #3, so he'll do what it takes to get the man he wants at #2. It's a massive consolidation trade that nets us the best prospect, giving up a lot of quantity for quality.

    We then make a run at Ron Artest. With luck and some good salesmanship on Artest we start the season with:

    PG: Blake/Rubio
    SG: Roy/Webster
    SF: Artest/Batum
    PF: Aldridge/Artest
    C: Oden/Przybilla

    That is a fucking kick ass team. We'd probably want to find a better backup than Webster for Roy. I expect Blake to lose the starting job by midseason, so maybe he plays a Steve Kerr role as a backup combo guard.

    It'd suck to lose Fernandez and Bayless. Between them, they may combine for more all-star appearances over their careers than Rubio. But Rubio is the better fit, and the better talent. If you have the choice between a young Jason Kidd talent (Rubio), or a young duo of Stephon Marbury talent (Bayless) and Rip Hamilton talent (Fernandez), I think you have to take Kidd. Especially if you already have Brandon Roy.

    (The one thing that might throw a monkeywrench into this idea is that we worked so hard to convince Fernandez to come here. Rubio will kind of be in the same boat, where he could opt to stay in Spain. Hopefully the way we handle Fernandez wouldn't impact his decision to come.)

    Of course, if Webster never really recovers, we can't get Artest and Rubio takes a few years to get his footing, we're going to be kind of desperate. Maybe only get 50 wins. But if it comes together.....
     
  6. illmatic99

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    See, that's the kind of risk KP has avoided in the past. He's usually a low-risk, high-reward kind of guy.
     
  7. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    True. But is there really that much risk? I mean, 50 wins would still make most fans happy. Especially if Rubio were throwing a couple of crazy-good passes every game to remind us why we did it. It's half a step back to take two steps forward.
     
  8. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Rubio is the one guy in this draft that I want, so I wasn't referring to him per se.

    The "risk" factor... I was considering that you were trading away Rudy and acquiring Artest.
     
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    MAS RipCity Mercy, Mercy

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    Sergio to NY for TPE
    Trade up in the teens by using some 2nds and nab DeJaun Blair
    Will sign a vet pg and vet sf, one with cap space, one for a sign and trade
     
  10. BoomChakaLaka

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    I'm all over this idea!

    Do it now! Let Oden be someone else's disappointment!
     
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    I'm going with: He trades out of the first round.
     
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    Bayless is almost, but not quite, completely unlike Jarrett Jack.

    Horrid, horrid assessment.

    I predict we end up with Ty Lawson.
     
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    I'm hoping for Flynn or Lawson, but predicting we wind up with nobody. I'm also hoping to add a good vet, but I am not betting on that either.
     
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    To get Rubio, we would probably have to give up LMA. That is more like 2 steps back and pray we eventually take 2 forward.

    I guess it would have one advantage - the team would have an excuse besides Oden's knee to hide behind! :lol:
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    If KP feels that Flynn is like Chris Paul, I could totally see him trading up to acquire Flynn. KP wanted Paul, but he lost out to Nash on that one.
     
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    I really hope you are right.
     
  17. RickyRubio

    RickyRubio He Hate Me

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    I would like this deal. Hard as it would to see Rudy go. But this seems cool with me.
     
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    Huh?
     
  19. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    If Rudy and Bayless were in this year's draft, they'd probably each be somewhere between #3 and #8. Considering Rubio doesn't want to play for Memphis (and this seems to be an increasing problem for that team) doesn't it make sense for them to add a couple of talented prospects to fill out the team?

    I think Rubio may actually be worth a guy like Aldridge in 2021 when you look back over their respective careers, but given how much work he still needs, his contract issues, and the ever-available option he has to just not come to the NBA if he doesn't want to, I don't think Memphis can hope for that kind of a deal in a trade.

    The problem with my idea is that Memphis already has Conley and Mayo, so where do Rudy and Bayless fit? At that point I think they do a consolidation trade themselves and package a couple of guys for an upgrade at PF or C.
     
  20. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    my gut feeling is that Bayless is no where near a carbon copy of Jack.

    secondly, he's going to be our PG for next year, or at least our 20+ minute back-up. Frye, Shav, RLF, Ruffin, are all gone.

    Outlaw most likely will be packaged up for a vet pg, possibly w/blake IF the deal is right, otherwise we're going into the season with the same starting line-up as last year, but w/some different back-ups, maybe a bigger PF to replace Frye/shav.
     

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