Sources: Hawks to deal two to Warriors

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  1. Doctor Kajita

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    Found this on GSoM (so, I can't vouch for the validity of the info):

     
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    Well, maybe they can at least use the medical exception to waive him?
     
  3. Doctor Kajita

    Doctor Kajita Active Member

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    It would be awesome if they can somehow find a way to take advantage of this clause. I have to think that's one of the reasons why they did this deal.
     
  4. Zhone

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    Really pleased by this trade, although I don't think Claxton or Law will have any impact.

    The medical "exception" that takes a contract off of the salary cap for retired players wouldn't work at all for the Warriors. One, Claxton had to have the injury while playing with the Warriors, plus Claxton has to choose retire because of the injury. However, the Warriors can get a salary cap exception of about 2.6 million (half of Claxton's salary) to either sign a FA or to take back in a trade. The trade path is more intriguing, since there aren't alot of impact players available for only 2.6 million, however there at least the possibility of trading for someone on the rookie scale with a contract around that amount.
     
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    Thanks for clarifying -- I've heard talk that Claxton will personally choose to retire anyway. Either way, he's not going to get any PT. We benefit from the increased PT for the youngs anyway, IMO, plus we don't have to deal with Craw taking his 2yrs/20 mils (ugh). So that's great. But if we get some $$ relief from Speedy, that will be icing on the cake.
     
  6. Zhone

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    Well, both ways the injury has to be confirmed by league doctors, although Darius Miles managed to qualify for the exception and then go onto screw the Blazers by playing in 10 pointless games for Memphis, putting his salary back on the Blazer's cap. So I don't know how serious an injury has to be to qualify?
     
  7. Kwan1031

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    I don't think we have any chance of getting medical exception, since Speedy actually played couple games last season.

    Overall, I like this deal. Not only we avoid making Crawford sitting on the bench for next two years, we also ended up with valuable two expiring contracts. We essentially received Harrington's contract back, and considering Crawford's value, we could have gotten a lot worse. And, I guess we will find out what Law can do in a different circumstance.

    I don't know what to do with Speedy. Does he want to retire? I don't think that's the case, because Speedy probably doesn't want to give up nearly 6 mils. Then, oes he want to play? And, does he have anything left? At this point, I don't think he is a better PG than Watson. Then, will Warriors buy him out? Unless we are getting a huge discount, I think Warriors will open the option to trade Speedy's contract. If I have to bet, Warriors will probably keep him in inactive roster, and collect insurance money.

    However, I am bothered by the news that Warriors will change the draft plan because we got Speedy and Law. Crawford trade is nice, but both Speedy and Law should be considered as nothing more than expiring contracts. In a sense, our PG situation actually got worse by trading Crawford. We already have Randolph and Wright at PF, and Biedrins and Turiaf at C. So, I just don't see a logic why we are not trying to draft PG, unless something is cooking... Either the trade or the whole Monta thing...
     
  8. Doctor Kajita

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    I agree but I doubt the Warriors will change their draft plans because they got, at the best, two backup point guards.
     
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    If we consider Don Nelson's draft history, we should know that he's pretty savvy at blowing smoke up people's a**.
     
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    I wouldn't be shocked if Monta is moved if Curry is still on the board. He's a poor man's Ellis (especially in Nelly's system), and a lot cheaper. Especially if a small for a big (Bosh or Amare) are in the mix. One or more of the expiring contracts packaged together with Monta and Magette (3 way trades?) can make something work. We'll see what they have up their sleeves. Don't forget that Nelly blew up the Mavs when they had Kidd and others before. It wouldn't be the first time a major star got moved.
     
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    Ok, after processing...I like this deal. My hatred for Cohan and friends made me not want to. My gut feel was that it was a good move, and I'm leaning towards extremely good move. Essentially, he got two expring contracts that can be bundled or broken up for 3 way trades. If the right trade follows, it'll be a great move, otherwise, a trade that shows that he (Nelly/Riley) understands positioning.
     
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    Deal is done. That's good, I'm happy with it, but it certainly does seem they were rushing to get it completed before the draft (literally completed just a few hours prior). So what's the reason for that? Was it just to know the roster in terms of pegging picks, or is something else going on? I can't imagine Crawford affecting the Warriors pick much, if they still had him, so I doubt they'd be in a hurry. Maybe Atlanta needed to know though. Could be another trade going down though that involves draft picks or is affected by which players teams draft.
     
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    Yes breathe easy it's official Crawford is gone ...

     
  15. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Nah, that's probably more like Mully, Rowell would go after a one dimensional free agent and pay him 10 mil a year.

    If we could keep Biedrins and get Bosh or Amare to be next to him on the floor... look out! That's a lot of size compared to previous warriors lineups.
     
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  16. Run BJM

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    Pretty much agree with all of you guys, this is a real solid trade for us. To get back instant cap relief is great even if we get no players of value back. Claxton won't even be on the roster essentially and most of his salary is covered by insurance. According to Adam Laurdisen Nellie has always liked Law and if nothing else he's a cheap end of the bench PG with a small contract and an option to get rid of him. We also get the Crawford business out of the way early in the offseason so we can focus on other things with no drama and our log jam just opened up a little.
     

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