Where's the stimulus?

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  1. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    You just did it again. You found something in the post that you could poke fun at, and used it to make the poster look silly, while ignoring the real point he was trying to make.

    Do you even realize you're doing it anymore? :(
     
  2. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    No...(sob)... I can't help it. I wanted to be someone. I wanted to be... I wanted... I wanted to be a Roller Derby Queen. It was all so exciting. But I let it slip away. I wasn't strong enough. I wasn't fast enough. Gosh darn it, I wasn't good enough. And I had no hips.

    Now my broken dreams and I live quietly beneath the skating rink, staring up through the hole in the floorboards at the young gir... I mean, putting my affairs in order and preparing for an early death.

    barfo
     
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    yakbladder Grunt Third Class

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    I used to work for a health research organization for several years and I can tell you that unless you mean the tax revenue from insurance companies is funding 80% of the research you are 100% wrong.

    Almost all of the money we utilized for research (and here's a nice bit of info - we were "sponsored" by a national insurance provider who was our namesake) came from federal grants. When Bush got elected and decided to cut all of the health funding out the wazoo naturally our research also declined and led to massive layoffs. Never mind that we specialized in preventative research - the kind that actually saves a ton of money in the long run.
     
  4. Colonel Ronan

    Colonel Ronan Continue...?

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    I'm going to assume that you're a visual learner. Lets arrange a time to meet-up and all your questions shall be answered.
     
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    Colonel Ronan Continue...?

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    P.S. It's called comic relief. Even Shakespeare did it!

    P.S.S. Leave barfo alone, he's still hurt.
     
  6. Idog1976

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    Great post and I think you're totally spot on.

    My understanding is that most research for corporations occurs at universities both public and private or in federally funded labs.

    Insurance companies are middle men and don't actually produce anything except profits. Sorry it's true. I won't say what it is but my job is the same way Blazerprophet, but I wouldn't defend it if someone had a better system. There's the rub though because Obama's plan is just setting up the glorious private/public partnership where some political buddies get protected hunting grounds for insurance. If Obama was talking single payer I would be all for it.

    P.S. They have good health care in Europe both public (for the poor and middle class) and private (for the rich) this is true in virtually all non-Communist countries.
     
  7. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    I can't speak for insurance/health issues, but I am a New Product Development project manager and our R&D is tied to a percentage of our profit. There are of course government opportunities (whether SBIR, BAA's, funding from the military research organizations, etc) but most of the R&D done on our products is done with internal R&D funding.
     
  8. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Ew? For whatever reason, that sounds so, so.....MIXUMish.

    For the record, though, you are someone, barfo. You really are. No need/time for desperate measures.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    My wife's company is being given nine figures this week by the Federal Government. It's her job to spend it. When she told the Office of Head Start they were already at funding capacity and was trying to return money to them she was told to find a way to spend it, because if she didn't, their contract wouldn't be renewed. See, the OHS knows that if they don't find a way to spend all this money, they can't lock in that amount for next year's budget.

    So, the management of my wife's company has spent the past two weeks trying to figure out ways to pad the budget of all the Head Start programs they run instead of actually running them.

    Your tax dollars at work. :sigh:
     
  10. BLAZER PROPHET

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    When I worked for the feds the first thing that jumped at you was how many billions of dollars are flat out wasted for programs that did, literally, nothing for people. This was during the Clinton administration and he propsed a very good program consolidating many services and really making help for people easier, more direct & purposful and eliminating a lot of wasteful duplication. We were pretty jazzed for it as we knew the democratic congress would pass it thru. Wrong. Instead, after congress had pork-bellied it, it just made matters worse. And congress knew it. That's when I lost a lot of faith in congress and their desire to really help people.
     
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    Tell her to hire some people, that is the whole point. You can lead a horse to water...and no I am not calling your wife a horse :ghoti:
     
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    This is typical and in similar with alot of private/public partnerships which are the KING of over spending. We have got to do away with the idea that you cut programs unless they are slightly failing in which case we give them MORE money. It's ridiculous how we find ways to spend money in government just so we can say we are failing, because if someone says our spending is perfect, we are succeeding and it's tight as a drum legislature says "Oh that means we can cut your budget." It's horrible but we reinforce poor budget allocation by cutting when people succeed and giving more budget to those that fail. Then you get a glut of middle management and expensive technology and less line staff in whatever government service.

    America has a culture of failure and now we are sending it from government DEEP into the corporate world (bailouts).
     
  13. BLAZER PROPHET

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    Mark this date in history. The first time Sug has posted and not insulted someone. :cheers: Truly, this is a time of personal growth.
     

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