Merged: Quick on 1080 / Gerald Wallace and David Lee speculation

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  1. RoyToy

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    At least we're all on the same page in that we all seem to be Wallace fans. Hedo was as 50/50 as it gets.
     
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    Wallace, yes please. For Batum? No.

    They didn't deal for Wallace at the deadline because the Bobcats wanted Batum, should be the same now.
     
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    Re: David Lee

    More and more it sounds like KP is dead certain that Bayless is the future at PG. I haven't heard even a whisper of looking at a young vet or up and coming PG like Sessions only Ancient PG's who can steady the tiller until Bayless takes over.

    I wonder if KP is targeting young(ish) PG's and we just don't hear it.

    The situation you are describing isn't a bad one. Hate to give up Joel though unless you are getting someone like Battier or Crash in return or a starting quality PG. I think we could get Battier for Joel straight up since Houston is in a desperate situation. Not sure whether I prefer the veteran leadership, BBIQ and clutch shooting of Battier or the death on wheels take it to the hole at any cost speed and athleticism of Crash. With Wallace's concussion history you have to be a tad leary.
     
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    Re: David Lee

    But Oden hasn't progressed slowly. Considering it was his first year and he was coming off a major injury he actually looked better and better as the year went on, at least to me.

    LA, in interviews, has talked about wanting to play closer to the rim. Why do you think he would be unhappy about it.
     
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    Re: David Lee

    No shit, that's because they all have superstars that go to the line every time they are breathed on.
     
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    Re: David Lee

    Portland has one of those, too, in Roy. Oden, I think, will become one, too. Once he gets past the "called for a foul every time he breathes on someone' phase, that is.
     
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    Re: Quick on 1080(take it for w/e it's worth)

    We can take in about $8M more in salary than we send out.
     
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    Re: David Lee

    Joel for Battier?

    I'd personally never do that deal. Battier is nice, but I don't think Batum is far off from being a Battier type player, perhaps even by next year.
     
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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4487/splits;_ylt=AhikWRI1BpF2cJJ3v.Z0BUfkPaB4

    Other than the month of November (43% shooting, before rigors of NBA life wore on him). He actually shot better in the last few months then during any other part of the year.
     
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    Re: Quick on 1080(take it for w/e it's worth)

    And nearly $10 million if Portland renounces Koponen/Freeland. I don't think Portland will do it out of hand, but if they needed the extra $2 million or so to consummate a deal, it's an option.

    Or can renouncing rights to international players only be done prior to July 1? My impression was that it could be done at any time.
     
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    Re: David Lee

    Wait...are you serious Webster for Sessions? I know they brew alot of beer in Milwaukee but come on!

    I think Outlaw, Blake and picks/rights to euro's/ and $3million is the only way Milwaukee even considers a sign and trade for Sessions.
     
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    Re: David Lee

    For this reason, and in this scenario, I think Przy would be best off used to secure a big or a 1.
     
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    Re: David Lee

    Really? Melo doesn't draw unrealistic fouls. Lebron and Howard are the only one's I can think of that do that.

    Roy 6.5 attempts per game
    Rapist 6.9 attempts per game
    Melo 7.1 attempts per game

    It's not like it's outragous.
     
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    Re: David Lee

    Yeah. I really don't want to trade Webster now. One, we need him, as you said, to back up Roy. And, secondly, his value is at an all-time low. If they'd take Webster for him, great, but I just don't see why they'd take his long-term deal, considering he may never play even to his below-average level again.
     
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    Re: David Lee

    I think Battier is one of the most under rated players in the league even after the New York Times story "The no-stats All-star). His Intangibles, BBIQ and Clutchness are all off the charts (Ok maybe he is just quite clutch not off the charts). I think Battier is a perfect round peg in a round hole fit on this team. He gives us 2 to 3 years to groom Batum he brings toughness, intensity and veteran leadership both on the floor and off it. He generals the defense the way Roy generals the offense. He will also help Oden grow on his defensive skills. He steals plays from other teams and hits clutch threes (Hello? Remeber, he cost us the series!!!). He rarely makes mistakes.

    He is old and lacks athleticism but makes up for it due to the aforementioned areas/skills.
     
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    Re: David Lee



    Bayless can easily back up Roy.
     
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    Re: David Lee

    He's a nice role player, but I think Przybilla is just too much to lose for just a player like Battier. The Blazers lose too much size.
     
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    Re: David Lee

    But why help Houston?
     
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    I would trade either Batum or Rudy for G.Wallace. You have to give to get and I'm sorry as much as I love both of those players neither would have the impact Wallace would have. I think we are way to high on some of our own players. Wallace would instantly solve two positions SF and back up PF.
     
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    Re: Quick on 1080(take it for w/e it's worth)

    I just don't want to lose any of those prospects. And I don't think we need to. For instance sending just Rudy to Charlotte works just fine I believe.

    And, I believe we can renounce an international player at any point and release him and his caphold.
     
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