Miller's phone not ringing

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by B-Roy, Jul 8, 2009.

  1. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    31,402
    Likes Received:
    24,364
    Trophy Points:
    113
  2. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2008
    Messages:
    16,260
    Likes Received:
    829
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Hood River, OR
    10 Mill a year my foot.. we'll give you 4 Mill 'Dre
     
  3. RickyRubio

    RickyRubio He Hate Me

    Joined:
    May 27, 2009
    Messages:
    892
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Do you think we will be able to grab him cheap if no one signs him soon?

    No way in hell I would feel good paying 10 mil. But 4 sounds good lol
     
  4. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    18,725
    Likes Received:
    191
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    dental malpractice claims adjuster
    Location:
    Portland area
    If he is too old and can't shoot, why do we want him at all?
     
  5. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    15,264
    Likes Received:
    14,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I agree he is too told and can't hit 3's, and that's why he was far from tops on my list.

    However, to answer your questions, if we were able to sign him and Bass, then I would be happy to pick up two guys that give us different looks and options than Sergio and Frye did last year.
     
  6. RickyRubio

    RickyRubio He Hate Me

    Joined:
    May 27, 2009
    Messages:
    892
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    18
    He can drive and dish though. That is what we need in a PG. Yes, I know. Bayless. But he hasn't got the dish thing down yet. Just drive.
     
  7. craigehlo

    craigehlo Elite Wing

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    6,200
    Likes Received:
    2,328
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The whole "can't hit a 3" complaint is overblown in my opinion. We need to get away from shooting so many jumpers and have a PG that can get to the lane and create shots for our bigs. I'll take a player like Miller that can do that over Steve Blake jacking up 3's any day.
     
  8. blazerboy30

    blazerboy30 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    5,465
    Likes Received:
    423
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Miller would instantly make Oden much more productive on offense. Miller would be able to run a pick-n-roll with Greg, get him the ball in scoring position, and drive-and-dish to Oden for dunks.

    If we could get Miller for cheap, for a couple years, I would be all for it.
     
  9. elcap15

    elcap15 I slap you

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    490
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Miller isnt really a good half court point guard, not a great fit for the slowest team in the league.
     
  10. Erroneous Subterfuge

    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2008
    Messages:
    483
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    18
    It depends how you're team is put together. If we've already got Oden & Lamarcus and Roy who can drive at will, we need people to stretch the defense, otherwise defenses will just sag back and our inside game will also suffer.

    On the other hand it would be nice to have a PG who could drive and set up our bigs and take the pressure off of Roy. Wish we could find one who could do both.
     
  11. Sinobas

    Sinobas Banned User BANNED

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    Messages:
    14,608
    Likes Received:
    5,486
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Look at his playoff numbers and regular season numbers from last year? You think he's not an upgrade to Blake, simply because Blake makes 13% more of his 3pt shots? Maybe Portland is trying to drive his price down, but I'm thinking the Sixers will probably resign him, because they really want him back.
     
  12. craigehlo

    craigehlo Elite Wing

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    6,200
    Likes Received:
    2,328
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oden and LaMarcus can drive at will to the hole? I have to disagree with that statement. Roy and Bayless are the only guys that can drive on the team right now.

    Miller is a crafty vet that can deliver the ball to Oden & LMA is spots where thay can be successful.
     
  13. PapaG

    PapaG Banned User BANNED

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    32,870
    Likes Received:
    291
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Tualatin, OR
    That's my take on Miller in a nutshell. May as well keep Blake and hope Bayless progresses this summer.
     
  14. Erroneous Subterfuge

    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2008
    Messages:
    483
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Not what I meant... We have Oden and Lamarcus down low and we also have Roy who can drive so we need people to stretch the defense. I love ol' Greg, but I'm not going to say he can drive just yet. :lol:
     
  15. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,601
    Likes Received:
    56,031
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    That's a pretty myopic view of Miller's game. We need o reduce our reliance on outside jumpers for points, and actually take it inside to either score or get to the line. And 33 is not too old for what we want. We need a short term upgrade for the PG spot while Bayless develops.
     
  16. ucatchtrout

    ucatchtrout Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    1,461
    Likes Received:
    47
    Trophy Points:
    48
    For petes sake, he has never been able to shoot.

    He is a good defender, very good at scoring inside and running an offense. Oh, and by the way, he knows how to pass inside and run the pick and roll. A couple little things Blake and Bayless haven't seemed to be able to figure out how to do.
     
  17. GoBlazersGo

    GoBlazersGo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2008
    Messages:
    1,656
    Likes Received:
    1,782
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I need to trade phones with Andre, then... 'cause my god damn phone has been ringing off-the-hook all morning long! :banghead:
     
  18. SodaPopinski

    SodaPopinski Tigers love pepper

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    1,856
    Likes Received:
    50
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I've posted this before in another thread somewhere in the past, but it's relevant here.

    You can't discount the "he can't shoot the three" argument just by saying "well, we need to reduce our reliance on outside jumpers anyway." The way this team is constructed, we mostly rely on Brandon to be our primary playmaker. If that's the case, you need to appropriately space the floor with guys who can set screens, flash to the rim, or hit outside jumpers, so you can maximize Brandon's abilities to create off the dribble.

    If we bring in a guy like Miller, we diminish Brandon's impact on the game as our offense currently stands. I'm not saying we couldn't change our offense to make Brandon play off the ball more, but I'm not sure I want to do that. If you consider Brandon in the same category of impact guys as Kobe, LeBron and D-Wade, you've got to maximize his skill set and let him create, just like those three do. Having a guy like Miller on the floor with him makes it easier for defenses to collapse on Brandon, rendering him much less impactful on a game.
     
  19. STOMP

    STOMP mere fan

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    11,256
    Likes Received:
    3,866
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Marin
    of course one reason they go at a slower pace is that they don't have an athletic PG who can take people off the dribble and finish. Among Blake's positives is that he recognizes his limitations and doesn't try to more then he can, which is great and all but signing a PG like Miller would add a lot to a team's ability to run. While he isn't the outside shooter that Blake is, dude averaged 5 FTA a game last year to Steve's 1.

    He's not the ideal PG for Portland, but he'd be an upgrade. He's been an ironman missing only 5 games in his 10 year career and has remained very productive posting impressive PERs the last few seasons. Given his age and the market, I could live with PDX offering something around 7M per for 3 years.

    STOMP
     
  20. Wizard Mentor

    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Messages:
    14,416
    Likes Received:
    14,506
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master of Xen Foro
    Location:
    La Grande, OR
    I too find the "too old" argument amusing. We're not going to set LMA and Roy and Oden adrift when they're 32 or 33. They will still be core members of the team like the Celtics "big 3".

    as to the actual subject of the thread... I hope we can sign Miller on the cheap, $7 mil/year for 3 years.
     

Share This Page