Portland trying to get PAUL MILLSAP!

If this fails, Bass will already be signed by the time the 10-days are over.

 

I would agree. They would have time to move Boozer later.

 

But they would have to move Boozer for mainly capspace, otherwise, they have to take back at least ~10Million in salaries.

 

The funny thing is that even IF Portland makes the offer, and IF Utah matches it, then Utah has even more reason to do the 3-way with Boozer. But if they are smart, they'll offer Portland the 3-way now instead of being forced to do it the hard way.

iWatas

 

I remember Memphis makign an offer last year for Josh Smith, adn hearing how it was essentially a favor to the agent, so that they could finally get Atlanta to do something, since they seem to like to sit on their hands with their restricted free agents. Was starting to wonder if thi might be a similar such situation, but his agent doesn't really represent anyone else, so so much for that theory. I'm still intrigued as to the details of what an offer might be. 5 years, 50 million seems really high for him. The idea of the signing bonus is a good one, with the money paid up front. I like combining that with a de-escalating contract. If we were to, say, move Outlaw for cap space(Memphis?) and started his deal out high, i tmight be an option. I just wonder of different provisions possible under the CBA. I keep thinking of the Seahawks and Vikings signing eachother's free agents, one with a clause where he has to be the highest paid lineman, one where he can't play half of his games in the state of Minnesota, lol. Can we say his contract doubles if he plays half his games in Utah? (I know we can't do that, j/k)

 

Nope. Bass's agent will get a feel as to what Utah will do and make sure Bass is available if the deal falls through.

 

If the Blazers trade Joel, and Greg does down for a prolonged time, game over. If we have Joel and Greg goes down, we still make the playoffs. Trading Joel would be a HUGE rolling of the dice.

 

In 30 minutes, Millsap has a defensive rating of 105, which is quite good, and FAR better than what we got from Outlaw. His career PER is 18, and last year, he was at 19 (yes I'm rounding up, but I like whole numbers).

This team lacked defense, toughness, and rebounding from the reserve power forward position last year. We add this with this move. What we lose with Outlaw's scoring and ability to create a shot, we will replace, IMO, with broadening Fernandez and Bayless's roles.

This is actually a huge team improvement in more ways than one.

 

It is definitly. The Blazers bench would have been much better with more physicality on it. But at this point, with Bargiani getting 10 million, I just don't really know if Milsap is worth it. He is better than Bargiani, so he would have to get more than that. That would be over 1/5 of your salary going to your backup PF. I could see that situation being like the John "Hot Rod" Williams situation from years ago. Hot Rod Williams was a good player, and got a huge contract, but he was kind of like "Sheed". Overpaid for the production you get out of him. Top tier money for a tier 2 player.

On the other side of the coin, Portland two biggest needs still go unfulfilled. But you can only improve usually one thing at a time, unlesss you get the mega bonus trade deal to go down, where you fill half your team needs in one shot from a team cleaning house.

But it doesn't matter. The Milsap thing isn't happening. As I have said all along, nothing is going to happen.

 

Also, I forgot to include a few other key stats that show how valuable Milsap is.

- He led his team in Win% with 64.8%
- He tied Kirilenko for first place in +/- for the season with +266!
- per 48/min his +/- PER for the season was +4.1 at PF and +9.5 at C

 

I disagree. First of all, I don't think Milsap will get an average of $10M per season. If OKC isn't willing to spend the money on a large contract for him, and Utah can't afford to match, I really believe a 5year/$45Mish deal is what we can get him at.

This would preclude Joel being traded eventually. A future frontcourt making $32M to $35M is worth it IMO.

 

No way. Becuase if he came that cheap, Utah would be stupid to not sign him, wait a year for Boozer to come off the books normally, and just ride it out. That is cheap. Why wouldn't they match then? They would only be over the cap for one year.

 

That might be cheap for us, but not for Utah. Do you realize even paying him that relatively cheaper contract, they're still on the hook for an additional $10M in luxury tax over his salary?!

They can't free up salary because there's no one left to absorb Boozer's contract. We aren't going to do it. I don't think OKC or MEM will do it, not with their most recent moves this and public statements.

Utah is fucked!

 

Yes, but I don't think many hear understand that Boozer really isn't welcome in Utah anymore. He pretty much went out of his way to burn bridges there with his public comments. This isn't all about money, it's who they want to be there playing. They want Milsap, not Boozer. They want to find a way to get that done. Not a way to let him re sign somewhere else.

 

I thought that sort of stuff was frowned upon in Utah... or do they have some sort of polygamist's exception?

STOMP

 

Just have a question for folks:
If we extend Roy and Aldridge now, does that impact our ability to sign Millsap to a five-year contract?