I have to agree with you and if any of those guys wanted a 5 year max deal the teams would have jumped all over it.
Wake up dude. We have the richest owner in basketball (Soon to be #2 if the oracle thing goes through) and we are so fucking spoiled. Now you know what the other 25-28 teams feel like. If Paul Allen sells we are really fucked. Here in SLC the owners are not poor. But because of the small market they have to be on a tight budget. How much bigger do you think Portland is?
My semi-educated guess? Vulcan is taking the coming labor war very seriously. Stern hasn't lost a single major battle yet, and he is unlikely to lose this one. Stern is a captive to his weird hatred for the players' union (which is just strange, given how comparatively weak the NBA union is), and is no doubt being egged on by losers like Shinn, Heisley, and Sterling. I would bet the majority of owners don't actually want the lock-out/cancelation of the 2011-2012 season, but just don't have the guts to Das Commisar.
Give me a break. For the first time EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ok you may be able to find 1 or 2 times but that is it.
God, what a bunch of nancy-boy drama queens our fanbase has turned into. It's a negotiation. Let it play out.
I love drama-laden and pejorative-filled posts complaining about the drama-laden board. It's so...ironic.
So are you just completely ignorant of the situations of the past "dictating" this market? It's in the teams benefit to give the 5 year deal, as opposed to the 3. Those players chose 3 year deals to get to their 3rd, and much bigger contract, as soon as possible. Them signing for 3 years doesn't "set the market" for Roy to only get 3 years. I don't know if you are arguing just to take an opposite side of a discussion, or if you truly believe this. I'm hoping the former.
Plus he refuses to consider that Bargnani's 5 year extension is much more applicable in terms of the current market of that rookie class. James signed a 3 year max deal!!!
I think it has to do with salary cap flexibility. Why are we under the cap right now? Because KP purposefully structured several contracts to end this summer. In 4 years, our window is wide open. Maybe we need a piece. If Roy and LA are maxed out, too bad, but if both have contracts that end that summer, we have cap room again, and them we re-sign them. 4 years helps the team more.
Does it? What about next summer, when Oden/Rudy/Bayless/Batum can be extended. Are they going to get three year deals? Also, it's true LMA and Roy could be resigned, but after being lowballed on years, they both may be willing as UFA's to move elsewhere. What makes you think Portland would offer a max at that stage, and I personally am concerned about next year, and the year after, and the year after. I couldn't care less about 5 years from now in terms of "cap flexibility" that won't matter.
I don't think we'd have cap room at all. Wouldn't Roy and Aldridge have significant cap holds then unless we renounce them, which is very unlikely. And hopefully in four years, Roy, LA and Oden will have developed big time that we don't need a big-time piece to add and that'd be a hell of a lot of money to pay those 3 guys, plus another significant piece. And that's why they created mid-level exceptions so teams over the cap can add pieces to the roster. I think this is the last time in a very long time that we'll have cap room like this.
Bogut, 5 years. Granger, 5 years. F. Garcia, 5 years. Bynum 4 years. Weird market. Doesn't seem to be setting on any standard whatsoever. Dwight Howard-5, Okafor-5, This can continue.
Is Vulcan behind the "Roy Situation?" I don't think so. Roy's agent is behind the "Roy Situation." The "situation" being getting certain fans all riled up. It's called negotiating in the press. I think julius also has it right: There are many other things to consider in a contract than simply it's 'length and girth,' such as Roy's long-term health. I think the Blazers have legitimate reasons to worry about his wheels coming off.
