Chicken Soup For The Blazer Fan's Soul (Blazers Edge)

They are "breaking even" even after having Darius Miles' salary and tax put back on the books. They would be "bankrupt" again if Randy Foye and not Brandon Roy had ended up in Portland.

 

Some season ticket prices have gone up 300% from last year. How much does offering a UFA like Hedo drive up the cost further?

 

Really? That $10 million/per wouldn't have impacted the cost of tickets over the next five years?

 

How much $ does one need to secure the financial security of his immediate and extended family. Give me a number, or you're the one spouting "a load of fucking horseshit".

I don't think anyone on these boards knows the details of the negotiations including you. If it's "nickel and dimed" (i.e. a small amount) then why doesn't Roy just agree to the smaller amount?

What does PAs net worth have to do with anything? He's not really being paid by PA, he's being paid by the Blazers organization.

 

That wasn't my point, but thanks for being literal and avoiding the real topic at hand. How would you reconcile Millsap being in Portland at $8.5/per in terms of ticket prices.

 

I think the Blazers Edge reasoning for why you'd negotiate as per normal with Roy makes sense. Unless you want to foster a sense of certain players feeling singled out and treated differently, it's best to negotiate seriously with everyone, rather than just handing some players whatever they want and then taking a hard line with certain players.

They're all adults, they can take a few weeks of negotiation without being emotionally damaged.

 

I'd agree except for the Quick/LMA article in last Sunday's Oregonian in which LMA said he knows Roy is a max player, and he probably would stay for less. Did you read that one?

 

Yes, I did. It was surprising and I wonder if that will hold true when his agent is the one talking to Pritchard. But, in any case, Aldridge isn't the end of the line. Oden will be next. If he's utterly dominant, it's not a hard choice but if he's at, say, 17/10, is he an "automatic max out?" It seems like it'll be less perturbing to him for Portland to negotiate seriously with him if that's their policy for all players, whether the player is good, bad or great.

Then there's Rudy, Bayless and Batum. Who knows what level they will attain? Lots of negotiations in the future. Seems reasonable to establish the policy: we will negotiate with you, no matter how good you are. It will be tough but in good faith. Hire a good agent. We love you, though.

 

Who do you think signs the checks? He's absolutely being paid by Paul Allen, and then Allen hopes that the output that Roy produces for him will help sell his product so he can recoup that money he spends in salary.

Furthermore, the notion that just because 60 million dollars vs. 80 million dollars will have him set financially for a good long time with either amount is pretty much irrelevant. If I work for a company that is only willing to pay me 75% of my market value when my contract comes up for renegotiation while I'm fairly certain that several other companies would eagerly pay me 100% of market value, why in god's name would I settle for the lesser amount?

Let's make it a little more personal. For instance, if you won the lottery tomorrow and when you went to the lottery office to collect the payout they said to you, "hey we'd like to give you the full amount, but we need 25% of the prize to fund some project, how about helping us out?" would you meekly take the lesser amount because you'd be set for life either way? Perhaps you would, but I sure as hell wouldn't.

 

I'm guessing none of them will be an All-Star next year, nor an All-NBA 2nd team player the season after that. Actually, I'd bet my entire net worth on it. Deal?

 

They don't have to be as good as Roy to command a lot of cash. And, in fact, falling short of clear maximum value makes their negotiations trickier. I personally don't think Roy can be overpaid, due to the existence of max deals. But it will be possible to overpay Rudy, Batum and Bayless.

Better to set the precedent for tough negotiations now.

 

I'd hate to see what "trickier" means at this point on an extension off of a rookie deal. Roy is a no-brainer, and he's "frustrated" and "disappointed" and thinks a deal is "50/50, at best".

 

"Trickier" means that it's not clear where the final per year dollar figure will end up. For Roy, it's pretty certain that it will be the maximum per year. Only number of years seems to be in question.

 

We don't know this. We only know the year issue at this point. I've heard nothing about what he Blazers are offering in terms of dollars.

 

I didn't say we know it for a fact. I used "seems to be" because that's the only difference reported.

If Pritchard can get Roy signed for less than max dollars, he really is a wizard!

 

Or, if he isn't offering max dollars, he's an idiot.