Plan C (When Utah Matches): Marvin Williams?

Devil's advocate: Marvin can't create his own shot and isn't known for hitting big shots like Travis is.

Hey, Outlaw frustrates me just as much as he frustrates some of you . . . but Marvin Williams isn't a huge upgrade. And Travis only cost us $4 million this year. You think we can get Williams for that?

Besides, if we trade Outlaw I'd like to see one of the benefits being that it opens up the SF position for us. While Outlaw and Williams can play PF, they aren't what we need at THAT position. We need a good post defender, good rebounder, and a guy that can score a little around the basket to back up Lamarcus. The 2nd unit has NO post pressence - it's all jump shots.

Millsap would be a nice add, but if he signs with Utah I don't think we need to sign somebody like Williams just to make a move. Just go focus on Roy's and Lamarcus' extensions.

 

I love Marvin's game. At 6'9" he can easily play the back up PF spot more so than Travis as well as get minutes at the 3. A change of scenery may do him wonders. He could be a steal. Has he been healthy?

And yes Marvin can create his own shot. Are you kidding me!

 

Don't know if this has been reported yet, but on ESPN they said that the Jazz plan on taking out a loan to re-sign Milsap.

 

No he can't. He can spot up from 18-20 ft, he slashes to the basket pretty well, and he finishes really well on fast breaks. But he doesn't post up well, he's not a dribble/drive guy, or a hard dribble/jumper guy either.


Trust me, he's not a guy you can run plays through to get a good shot. He needs somebody to set him up.

 

I would rather sign Lamar Odom and take a piece from the Lakers. Or at least make them pay more for him.

 

I like Marvin and think he still has serious upside. Unlike TO, he actually cares about defense. He can also understand offensive sets. I'd love to steal him from the Hawks, just as long as we move TO and possibly Webs.

 

I don't agree, I think he does have a dribble/jumper game and, if defenses play him too tight for the jumper, he's adept at driving to the hoop.

Perhaps what you mean is that he's not a "go-to guy," to which I'd agree. He's not a guy you can run your offense through, use as the focus of your offense. But he can certainly catch a pass on the wing, at a stand-still, and create a good opportunity for himself, in my opinion.

He's not the sort of epic shot-maker that Outlaw is (by which I mean, Outlaw is capable of making some insane shots, shots that Williams probably can't hit), but he's also not the epic shot-taker that Outlaw is. He has good shot selection and plays within himself. And he's more aggressive at attacking the hoop than Outlaw, which I like.

 

The one thing I would also point out is Marvin Williams isn't really in the prime place for him to be effective right now. The Hawks are one of those teams where they have a bunch of good players, but unfortuantely quite a few of them play the same position, and leave them thin at other positions. So they have Josh Smith and Marvin Williams, but they do the same thing. Because of this, they end up with less minutes on the floor, and not working out so well sometimes because they have to play on parts of the floor they are not comfortable with when the other player is on the floor too. It just isn't a good sitaution for success for him there.

That being said, the only way I can see success for him here, is if somebody else was moved. Otherwise, you probably have the same issues.

 

He's not "much" better than Outlaw.

 

Put me down as very high on Marvin Williams. He would be a definite upgrade and allow us to move other players, specifically Travis, to facilitate a PG upgrade.

 

Webster will be back and he is better than Williams imo. We need his 3 pt shooting.

 

Marvin Williams is a better player than Outlaw...and if worst case, POR can put pressure on ATL to match a heavily incentivized contract to retain him, then they should...who are they missing out on by doing so? Glen Davis?

 

So Portlands big plan in the summer of 09' is simply to piss other NBA teams off by having to match ridiculous offers to their own players?


I like Davis too. If Hedo, Millsap, Childress, Williams, Hinrich, Ariza, Artest, Odom, MIller, Bibby or Sessions don't work out, he should be the guy

 

Thankfully, Bibby has been re-signed by Atlanta. The only way Bibby "wouldn't have worked out" for us is if Portland had signed him.

 

I just think KP is trying to improve his karma by doing favors for all of the restricted free agents out there.

Making offers that are large, but will still be matched, thereby giving them a big raise.

KP's giving ways really are outstanding.

 

Show me how.