OT- Diogu unlikely to resign with Kings

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  1. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'd MUCH rather have him back than Sean May. Given time, I really think that Diogu could produce.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Yeah, I actually think Diogu would be a decent "backup banger," considering we have Przybilla and Oden for all the center minutes and just need someone for the 11-12 minutes that Aldridge doesn't play. He's no great shakes on defense, but he's always been an efficient player because he rebounds reasonably well and scores at a strong efficiency. One reason he's an efficient scorer is he draws free throws really well (21.4% draw-foul rate).

    For a cheap contract, he'd fill a minor need and preserve almost all of Portland's cap space for an upgrade to the starting unit.
     
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    I'd like a guy who can make a layup so no, May is better if he can stay healthy.
     
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    ...not true :crazy:
     
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    You have a point. Ike couldn't even beat out Frye last year.
     
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    Ike consistently hasn't been able to beat anyone out during his career.
     
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    So far neither has Bayless... but how many think that Sergio was a better prospect than Bayless? :dunno:
     
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    Neither has Sessions. He took over from Ridnour due to injury to Ridnour. Sometimes coaches make mistakes.

    Diogu was a superior player to Frye, even if McMillan didn't play him over Frye much.
     
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    Yeah, good point. He only shot 52.7% from the field last year overall. It's much better to judge him on the 19 field goals he attempted as a Blazer than on his career.

    Ed O.
     
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    Especially for what we needed. Compared to what we already had, and what Frye offered.
     
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    Good point!!!1

    But, in Bayless defense... He was a rookie on a team giving their backup PG his one last shot.

    Ike just flat out never made anything on any team he ever played on lol
     
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    Except at ASU, where he set many of the records Pendergraph's fans will point out he's a Top 10 member of. :)
     
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    Dude you're actually comparing Diogu's 5 seasons in the league to Bayless' 1? No comparison, Diogu has had adequate time to show what he can be, unfortunately that is a guy who is not good enough to get on the court regularly.
     
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    I agree Bayless was a PG and a Rookie, it wasnt a knock on him, it was more in agreement with Minstrel's comment saying sometimes the coach doesnt always make the right decision.
     
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    1 coach, fine. 2? Maybe. How many coaches does Diogu have to go through before people understand that he's not a very good basketball player relative to NBA competition? Sessions has been through 1 coach. Diogu? Plenty.
     
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    No, you're right. It's much better to judge him on the rest of his career. A guy who has played for numerous teams and coaches and can't seem to find time on the court regularly. Coincidence? I don't think so.
     
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    What does that have to do with the post I replied to? Does he not play a lot because he can't make layups?

    Or are you changing the subject because you know you were typing out of your ass?

    Ed O.
     
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    If you can't see that it's hyperbole then you must have a learning disability. We're allowed make hyperbolic statements on sports forums. I would think that you could comprehend when someone makes a statement like "this guy can't play defense, or make a jump shot" it's hyperbolic. I didn't say he doesn't play because he can't make layups. Try to follow along.
     
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    Number of coaches "gone through" doesn't measure a player's ability level, his on-court production does. His per-minute efficiency is very high and when he got time with Sacramento at the end of last season, he was hugely productive for full games.

    A player can be systematically undervalued. This has happened plenty in baseball and that New York Times Mag article about Shane Battier was describing how it happens in basketball, too. If a player is systematically undervalued, then being benched by a number of coaches isn't all that surprising or meaningful.

    I'm hardly advocating giving him a starting position. 10-12 minutes is not a lot to gamble on a player who's per-minute efficiency is great. He doesn't even need to be able to translate that to big minutes, because no one is advocating giving him big minutes.
     

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