(Flashback) BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

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  1. hasoos

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS

    Well I am still not sold on all this being good. Andre Miller has several things that set off alarms in my head when I think about them.

    1. He has never been re-signed by a team when free agency has came up. Always shipped out or let walk. Why has nobody ever wanted to keep him on board?

    2. He only seems to work out well if the fit is right. Denver, who had been in need of a good PG for almost a decade before they got Billups, shipped him to Philly for Iverson. Yet somehow Billups comes in, and magically heals the team after Iverson is shipped? It was almost the exact same team as when Miller was there, minus a couple of role players. But it didn't work.

    3. He was unaffective in Philly until they opened up to a running style. Nate is here. Enough said.
     
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    Oh, just signed Andre Miller. Thought I read something else but I guess not.
     
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    Uh, yeah. Pretty much.
     
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    I'm not sure I get the first point. The Cavs traded him so they could tank their way to Lebron. Denver also traded him - for a guy who was still considered a big star. That leaves the Clips....and do you blame him for refusing to re-sign with them?

    As to your second point, the year before he arrived in Denver, they won 17 games. In his 3 full seasons, they won 43, 44, and 49. He "worked" just fine - but the team was unwilling to build entirely around an immature Melo, so they went with AI instead. Billups came in and had the good fortune to play with a Melo who was starting to "get it."

    There is some truth to the third point, but it is tough to look good with Mo "What's a playbook?" Cheeks in charge!
     
    oldmangrouch, Jul 24, 2009
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    Late to this, as I couldn't check the forum all day, but I'm very pleased with this signing. I would have preferred Millsap (but Portland tried that and it was clearly not possible) or Sessions, but this is an impact move, in my opinion. And the terms, if reports are right, are basically perfect. Two guaranteed years, one team option. That is exactly the kind of "proven point guard" bridge Portland needed to evaluate what they have in Bayless (and, to a lesser extent, Fernandez) and whether they can use either one at point guard long-term. But it exposes the team to very little risk (the Turkoglu guaranteed five-year deal had tons of risk and not a lot of reward, so I like this MUCH more).

    In the meantime, Miller is still a very good point guard, he's a solid defender even though he's declined a bit with age and he knows how to get others involved. I think Roy will flourish not having to run the offense every moment that he's on the floor. Now he can run things at the ends of games and otherwise split his time between being on the ball and off the ball. He'll be a more versatile weapon that way. I also love what I think this will do for Aldridge and Oden, to have a tremendous passer to drive and dish to them and to throw alley-oop lobs.

    Also, I think Miller will push the ball when Portland has numbers after a long rebound or quick outlet. McMillan isn't going to make Portland a "running offense," but I think he'd be perfectly happy to have a good push-the-pace point guard help the team get easy buckets now and then.
     
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    Don't think he'll fit well in portland. Not under a Nate slow-paced team.
     
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    How many times last year did we see Aldridge be first down the court with no lob to follow? I think this is great for Oden, Aldridge and Batum. Aldridge and Batum should each get two more buckets/game on breaks.
     
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  8. illmatic99

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS

    Philly didn't really run teams out of the gym, either.
     
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    I don't understand this theory. You are not the only one saying it. What part of Andre Miller's game suggests that? Certainly his lack of 3 pt shooting doesn't. Andre Miller can run an offense, any offense. If he can't run the point in a so called Nate offense, how many PG's can?
     
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    It's only 2 years if it doesn't work out. The 3rd year will be a team option.


    This is a good signing if it actually happens.
     
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    The blazers under Nate are a very slow paced team. When Miller doesn't play at a fast pace, his lack of shooting will become apparent', as well as his below average, slow defense. I also believe he might struggle playing with talented bigman because of the space in the paint he needs to get his shot off.
     
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    So your saying Billups sucks and has nothing to do with the success of Denver? Billups isn't a damn, damn good PG and couldn't have possibly helped the team out with his PG talents? Is that what you are saying?
     
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    I already dispelled this notion. Miller has had very good #s with Philly, a statistically slow team: http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2009.html

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    Ok, so what's the next move?
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS

    In the half-court, Miller is very good at getting to the hoop and finishing/drawing fouls. That's a good match with big men like Aldridge and Oden, because it forces the opposing big men to rotate over...leaving either Aldridge open for his bread-and-butter short/mid-range jumper or Oden to attack the hoop. Miller has the proven vision to find them.

    Miller is very good on the break, but his slashing and passing ability are strengths in the half-court. And his shooting problems are only for the perimeter. He has a relatively reliable mid-range jumper.
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    A banger. I hate to say this but I still feel Outlaw should be traded along with Blake. We do need to get a better defending and tougher back up PF. We need to free up minutes for Rudy.

    Outlaw and Blake should be packaged out, if at all possible, for a banger.
     
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    Yeah, who would have thought that an idiot jackoff moron like KP could pull this off?
     
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Blazers to Sign Andre Miller

    I want an Outlaw/Bayless for Landry/Battier deal.

    Have we renounced our trade exception from the Diogu deal? If not, then we can pull a TE for Landry deal, and then do a TO + JB for Shane trade.

    Check it:

    Miller/Roy/Battier/Aldridge/Oden

    Blake/Rudy/Batum/Landry/Przy
     
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