I'm afraid KP is not going to trade anyone!

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  1. ODENISGOD

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    GOOD LUCK NATE!!!!! There is so many log jams its not even funny. He seriously needs to take bayless and either outlaw or webster and get another veteran backup power forward. Bye reading his comments in the Andre Miller story that Quick wrote I seriously don't think he's going to do anything else. Have fun Nate trying to play outlaw,batum and webster, And no way bayless sees the court now, im sure he is jumping for joy right about now.

    Pritchard indicated that Miller's signing signals the end of the Blazers' significant offseason moves. Nearly all of the Blazers' $7.7 million cap space was exhausted, and Pritchard said it is highly unlikely he will make a trade before October's training camp.

    "I don't see many more moves," Pritchard said.
     
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    KP often says one thing and then does another.

    or

    OMFG WTFBBQ FIRE KP
     
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    "I don't see many more moves," Pritchard said.

    You posted what he said right there. How many moves need to be made to get a vet back up PF? I say one, which would fall in line of not seeing many more moves. To me, many moves would be 3+ moves. So KP is probably correct. He may be able to get that vet after he is waived by a team. And it has already been said this off season that Outlaw is no longer viewed as a SF for this team, so the depth chart there is Webster, Batum, Cunningham.
     
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    We go though this same discussion every year. You have 15 guys on a team every year, three of which are scrubs. That leaves 12 players and inevitably a log jam. The other option is to have 5 scrubs who don't care if they play (And that is a fantasy because everyone wants to play) and take the chance no one gets hurt.

    The bottom line is you are always going to have a log jam with 15 players and only a 9- 10 man rotation.

    So far the back up PF's that have been thown out there are not worth Bayless AND Outlaw when you take into consideration we have Oden, Cunningham, Pendergraph and TO on the roster. Who is better than those 4 combinded. Turiaf? Joe Smith? I like both of those guys but I am not so sure.

    If the worst case scenario is that Travis and Bayless have to sit.....too fucking bad. Someone has to and they won't be thrilled either. Last year all I heard was consolidation was needed. It can't happen. The number of people playing and the number of players watching will always be the same. Stop worry about their feelings and their future contracts. I am not oppossed to trading either of those two, but if it does not happen.....no big deal.
     
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    I must have missed that one... do you have a link?

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    They are going to carry a 13 man roster with Martell questionable. Pendergraph and Cunningham are probably going to be riding the pine so you're left with 10 rotation players, The only "logjam" I see depends entirely on whether or not Bayless can be satisfied with the spot minute role he had last year -- my gut tells me "no", but maybe he'll surprise us all and just work on his game in practice and bide his time for when "Blakey's" contract expires.
     
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    It was said on one of the Courtsides. It was at least a month ago, but it was very clearly stated. No ambiguity at all. It was pointed out that Webster/Batum are the rotation and the only way for Outlaw to get burn was to be PF and a better rebounder. I am sure it was MB that announced it, but he stated it as fact. He was told this by either Nate or KP. Now, of course if Webster is not ready, they can have Outlaw backup Batum, but it was said that they do not like the results that come from Outlaw playing SF. His only advantage is against big, slow PF's.
     
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    Is it out of the question to send him to the d-league to get exclusive burn as a PG? Would it kill his confidence? Would he really benefit more by practicing against Miller/Blake?
     
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    okay... so this is you speculating there were sources behind an announcer's speculations. I didn't think there was a quote from anyone in management.

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    Do you listen to Courtside? MB is very good at pointing out when he is just giving his opinion. He makes sure that what his opinion is does not get taken as gospel. In this situation he was matter of fact and did not say it was his opinion. Take it as you wish, I could care less. I am not trying to break any news here. I have had conversations on RealGM about this subject. Go listen to the old Courtsides if you want to get perspective or put your own spin on it. But remember, by saying "I didn't think there was a quote from anyone in management," you are also speculating.
     
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    I've listened to Courtside for years... I'm a diehard Blazer fan that you've been interacting with for quite a while now. The "if you had watched/listened" attack always strikes me as feeble, especially when the posters has got to suspect this isn't the case.
    wrong. There is no public quote from management echoing what you're saying... sorry but thats fact not speculation on my part. If there is one out there, I haven't read it and you certainly haven't relayed it. MB is a broadcaster with lots of time to fill so he stirs the pot with rumor and innuendo like most every other sports broadcaster. He isn't as far out on a limb as say Rice, but he's hardly the gospel truth about inside Blazer info.

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    I realize that but must not have much clout. As I said, MB is very careful to say when he is just expressing his opinion. As a long time listener of Courtside you know that. Now if it was Rice saying it, I would not pay much attention to it. MB knows those boundries that do not get crossed. As I said, listen to the episodes if you wish to get perspective. Mine is that MB had spoken with someone in the know.
     
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    It is clearly quoted in the new artlice bye quick. just go to oregonlive.com Im not going to give you a link. if your that lazy then oh well.
     
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    Are you serious? How do you keep Rudy, Martell, Batum, & Outlaw happy? You're talking about 4 guys who probably all feel they should get 30 min/night.
     
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    Rudy probably feels that he deserves 30 minutes. And he will get them.
    Martel will be happy to run. According to most on this board he is questionable at most to even play
    Batum will get his minutes as he is invaluable on D and will get more when he gets better on O.

    Outlaw plays a different position. If he does not get his minutes too bad, but I think he will be happy to be part of the team. At least as much as any other bench player.

    Make them all compete and stop babying them. They are getting paid millions when the rest of the country is struggling.
     
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    I'm lazy when you when you won't link what you're referencing? Let me guess, you're too busy :lol:

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    +1

    Webster is a non-issue, Batum will be the starter, and Outlaw has always been happy to accept a bench role. The only possible problem is Rudy - and he isn't so special that you blow up the roster to keep him happy!
     
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    Webster can feel entitled to anything he wants. He doesn't deserve starter minutes and there's absolutely no need to try hard to get him minutes.

    IMO, Rudy will get at least 25 minutes across both guard spots and Batum will get 25-30 minutes at the small forward spot. That leaves Outlaw 18-23 minutes at small forward. Rudy (or Webster, if he finally does anything to merit it) can poach some of these minutes and Outlaw can reclaim those minutes at power forward.
     
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    Where is the logjam? Blake becomes the back-up PG, Bayless has shown nothing this summer to deserve more minutes, and Webster still isn't even practicing, is he? It's a bit difficult to depend on Webster for anything. If he proves himself healthy and, more importantly, a MUCH better player than he's shown in the past, then a logjam could develop, I suppose.
     

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