OT: Sessions worried about Telfair

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  1. Ed O

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    No one is offering MLE because they believe it will be matched. That is MUCH more believable than that no team thinks he's worth the MLE.

    David Lee hasn't got any offers, either, that are confirmed. What are the odds that he would be unsigned? Or Marvin Williams?

    Restricted free agency is a bitch.

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    If you want Sessions, it's silly to offer him a contract now. If he signs it and Milwaukee matches, Sessions is lost to you.

    If you don't sign him to a contract, Milwaukee has nothing to match. He can then play out one more season on the qualifying offer and be unrestricted next season. At which point, teams can offer him deals and be certain to get him if he signs.

    Offering him a deal now that he would accept ensures you won't get him, if you think Milwaukee plans to match (as many do). Not offering him a deal means that there is a possibility that he will be available next year.

    That's the simplest explanation for why a young, productive point guard is still unsigned.
     
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    There are plenty of guys in the NBA that don't play (and they all get paid for it).

    I'm sure they traded that crap bag-of-crap Richardson for Telfair with the thought that he would be their backup. However, they would be CRAZY to get him a minute if he wasn't at the same level as the other 2 PG's on their roster.

    Do you really think Dunleavey is going to plays Mark Madson because they traded for him this summer?
     
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    I'm not sure who is saying this. I could be reading it wrong, and you are saying that this is your assumption.

    I agree RFA is a bitch. Backing up Luke Ridnour must be a bitch too.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Telfair might not play, but I think he'll get at least a few minutes. Most rotation players get at least a few minutes per game, and I suspect the Clippers see Telfair as a rotation player. Sessions might be being overly paranoid, but when he's already going to lose a majority of minutes to Davis, I can't blame him for worrying that even the relatively small remaining minutes left by Davis might be cut into slightly. The Clippers, in any case, don't seem like an ideal situation (Davis already there, the Clippers are a horrendous organization)...the presence of another NBA point guard who might get minutes is just another negative.
     
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    100%?

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    Wait... who's saying ANYTHING about him? Isn't this whole thread based on assumptions?

    I think that my assumptions make a lot more sense than yours.

    I'm still waiting to hear why him remaining unsigned means anything given the inability of almost every other RFA to get a new contract.

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    To be fair, he might also be bringing up Telfair b/c it's a lot more polite than saying "are you effing kidding me? Have you seen the Clippers? Ha Ha Ha!"
     
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    Well, there's that, and then there is also that none of the teams that could do so offered him a contract that the Bucks would not match. A Millsap-esque offer, and Sessions is a Blazer. Clearly the team felt that Sessions added little, since Portland could have had him quite easily by simply tranferring the Millsap offer to Sessions.
     
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    Sorry, I took the article as fact, that may have been a mistake. The article stated he was concerned about the playing time issue and stated Telfair as one of the culprits. The was slightly eye-catching to me.
     
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    It didn't say Sessions doesn't feel he can beat out Telfair, it says he doesn't want to share the court with him. Makes sense, IMO. Telfair will play. Sessions can play at the same time with Baron. He's really the perfect guy to pair with a scoring PG. Baron can create on offense, leaving sessions to only score, and Baron can guard the 2 on D. It doesn't work out so well with Telfair on the court with him. Telfair isn't a great playmaker and can't guard the 2. Sessions would end up getting beat up by bigger guys on D and standing around waiting for the ball on O.
     
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    I have to say, that was my first thought. A hasty attempt to be diplomatic.
     
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    i'm sure they are thinking of using gordon as a pure 2 at this point.
     
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    Telfair is really improving. I was so upset when he started getting minutes for us, but he proved that he can be a legit pg in the league. His shot is becoming streaky rather than broken, and he can get into the lane at will. He still doesn't know what to do once he's there, but he's getting better and better with more confidence. If I was a gm he'd be my first choice for a veteran backup pg.
     
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    We couldn't make the same offer we made to Millsap, to Sessions.
     
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    Why not? Both were RFAs. Is there a Millsap-only clause in the CBA for "toxic" offers than I don't know about? Why couldn't Portland have offered Sessions a Millsap-like contract for Milwaukee to try and match? No way Milwaukee would match it. Perhaps some people on this board have been grossly overrating Sessions and his value?
     
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    They are different cases, because Sessions had only been in theleague 2 years, and Millsap 3 years, which changes what each could be offered in free agency, even though both are RFAs.
     
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    Huh? What's the max that Sessions can be offered as a 2 year vet? I can't find anything about a restriction, let alone what the restriction is in terms of money. Is it under the $7.7 million that Portland had on the cap? They could also have had more if they had renounced Freeland and/or Koponen.
     
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    http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cach...n sessions max offer&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    Put a "toxic" pill at the front end, and Milwaukee wouldn't match it. Hell, the way Jennings played in Summer League, I doubt they would even match a 4 year deal with the same "toxic" bonus up front.
     

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