Roy and Bryant are both freaking rich and will never have to worry about money again. Bryant realizes he's rich, he'll get his money come contract time, and wants his GM focusing on improving the team first. Roy, would like more than the $15M the Blazers have paid him before he puts the team before himself. I have zero beef with Roy thinking about Roy first. Just like I have zero problem with the Blazers thinking about the organization before they think about Roy's feelings.
In this situation, he is. I hope I didn't hurt his feelings. I find it funny you didn't bold the part where I said I have zero beef with Roy being selfish. However, I probably shouldn't be surprised as doing that makes it look more dramatic. Go ahead and remember the entire thing I said: Roy and the Blazers are being selfish. Kobe, for once, is showing signs of not being selfish.
Hey, yuyuza1, this is the part of the article you should focus on: Funny how you quoted this part but it seems you didn't read it.
Common for players like LMA? Sure. Common for two-time All-Stars/2nd team All-NBA players? Not so much.
That's actually pretty uncommon for players of Roy's or Aldridge's caliber. And I did read it. WTF is with all the condescension on this board lately? You're telling me I didn't read something because I disagree with it. Another guy is telling me I am irrational, angry, and have no business sense whatsoever for calling out the Blazers for not extending Roy or Aldridge. (BTW, this still should not be a negotiation).
We're idiots, they're not. It's the new form of debate on the board. Good times! I don't see anything wrong with what you posted. I also don't see anything wrong with what Tince posted, although I don't agree with it. I don't think his either/or post added anything to the discussion, however. There does seem to be a run on "you're dumb if you don't agree with me" these days.
I disagree. I don't care what the GM is saying: negotiations are inevitable and healthy in almost every circumstance. You're embarrassed that he has really nice toys other than the Blazers? Really? Why are you embarrassed that he chooses to spend money on the other hobbies, rather than on the Blazers? Ed O.
He's apparently counting pennies (relatively) on a venture that is starting to become profitable, while he is splurging on a luxury. If I were him, I'd ensure one of my profitable ventures is running without trouble (any possible disputes over negotiations leading to disputes on the floor-- see: Bulls), instead. I suppose it is HIS money, in the end however.
I would cut costs in my business where ever I could so I could have more fun money to play with in my personal life.
Both the Blazers and a yacht are luxuries. Whether or not the franchise is actually profitable, how are your theoretical preferences, were you in his position, relevant at all?
I think that's arguable. Especially with people from Vulcan making public statements about how they are about to "break even." That was simply a personal anecdote.
Then why the mandate to "break even" on the Blazers over the next two seasons? They are relevant in that they are his opinion? yuyuza hit it on the head. Condescension seems to be the new approach to arguing here. Validate your opinion! Why is it relevant? Kee-rist.
What's the relevance? Every luxury has its price. Allen has thrown a lot of money at this particular one, so perhaps he'd rather stem the losses on it. It's his opinion about what he'd do if he had the money. How is it relevant as a criticism of Allen's approach to these negotiations? Anyway, yuyuza clarified that it wasn't relevant to the topic, just a personal anecdote.
Alright, back to the topic on hand, can anyone think of a valid reason why the Blazers would be willing to offer Aldridge more money next year, but not this year?
So, it's being treated as a business, and yes, many employees of this "luxury" have lost their jobs, most notably when Steve Patterson fired 80-odd people. But it's still a "luxury". I don't buy it, at least not in a direct comparison to a yacht. How aren't they relevant, considering that Allen clearly isn't running the Blazers as he "runs" his yacht? You comparing the two entities as being "luxuries" actually makes yuyuza's point even more relevant.
Injury risk. Perhaps a trade of LMA and let the new team extend him? There are two reasons. I wouldn't agree with the first reason, and the second would be assessed in the years after a trade.
Why? If Allen decided that maintaining the yacht in a certain way was too costly and, instead, he'd maintain it at a somewhat less costly level (which may or may not involve laying off some of the maintenance staff), the yacht would cease to be a luxury? yuyuza was saying which luxuries he'd give more attention to. I don't see what that has to do with whether Allen is doing something wrong or not, regarding how he runs the team or approaches these negotiations.
Allen can't possibly put out a mandate to "break even" on a yacht. It was a silly comparison. Perhaps they are both "luxuries", but one is clearly being run as a business. What is Allen doing wrong? How would me saying that I would act a certain way in a position make the person actually in that position wrong?
