Why, has football changed to 2 v 2 now? Holy crap that's going to cut down on the scholarships... I don't think Haak was even taking a swipe at UofO, he was just pointing out that the theory may be flawed that you have to "recruit nationally" to win the PAC-10. No one can even decide what recruit nationally means - does that mean you have to have 1 recruit from every 50 states? Does that mean you have to recruit the blessed East Coast in all it's football-goodness?</sarcasm> Yes, OSU has pulled players this year from as far West as Hawaii, as far North as Alaska, as far East as Nebraska (and before that Florida) and as far South as Texas. But I don't know that I'd consider OSU as "recruiting nationally"...at least for football. No one is going to beat USC out of the title until Carroll retires or USC beats itself. You can grab 1 or 2 or 3 "nationally recruited" players and it won't push you over the top. In fact, I should go dig up a recent article evaluating the last 3-4 years of recruiting in the PAC-10 and you can see in particular how the magical blue-chip recruits did amongst the particular teams.
So teams should just gun for 2nd place because thats good enough. The point is this article wasnt about OSU or any of that, it displays the little brother mentality when it gets turned into threads liek that with comments like that.
HAAK is halarious because he talks more trash then any person on this board, and then when the Ducks blew out OS in Corvallis he was nowhere to be found for a long while. He must just be recovering from that bruised ego. Meh, last 2 years, Oregon, 19 wins, 1-1 vs. OS... OS, 18 wins, 1-1 vs Oregon. If you know HAAK, you know he was. Anyways, since Kelly came on at Oregon, his first year they were right there in contention for the National Title until the very end, and then last year they won 10 games and didn't even settle on a QB til the end, where they started kicking ass.
nope, but even OSU, a team that is apparently known for recruiting on the west coast, needed to look further afield to find some stars. Obviously, "recruiting nationally" is open to interpretation. I'd just take it to mean that a NW team isn't going to be able to challenge USC with talent only from the west coast.[/quote] No one is going to beat USC out of the title until Carroll retires or USC beats itself. You can grab 1 or 2 or 3 "nationally recruited" players and it won't push you over the top. In fact, I should go dig up a recent article evaluating the last 3-4 years of recruiting in the PAC-10 and you can see in particular how the magical blue-chip recruits did amongst the particular teams.[/QUOTE]For every Cameron Colvin, there's two Jonathan Stewarts. Just because a few blue-chip recruits don't work out doesn't mean they can't make a big difference.
oregon has been recruiting nationally..they almost got bryce brown, and were in the running for pryor as well.
Little brother mentality? Have you been smoking the ganja a little too much? My comments had nothing to do with that and in fact, were telling you not to be such a sensitive Sally about Haak's posts. No, teams shouldn't just gun for 2nd place. But to think that you're going to get 2 or 3 blue chip recruits and suddenly become this powerhouse that outguns USC is asinine for any school. USC has some great recruiting tools and like many other schools in history once the snowball starts rolling it's hard to stop it. If USC could get kicked off it's perch for 2 or even 3 years then, yeah, maybe. But until then...
I was referring to comments like that, that Haak made not yours, sorry I could see how that looked like that. Appearently I'm not the only one who could see it in his post either. my point was that this thread was about Ducks recruiting nationally, it had nothing to do with OSU in any way, and somehow it has to be made into that with his comments, thats where the little brother mentality comes in. And no I'm not referring to OSU fans in general.
to be fair, let's not forget who was one significant injury *cough*Quizz*cough* away from winning the Pac-10 last year... Oh and let's also not forget who was one significant injury away from winning the Pac-10 (and possibly NC) the year before...
Let's also not forget about countless times Duck fans have entered into a thread about the Beavers without prior mention of the Ducks only to troll.
Considering how terrible Oregon State has played in "big" OOC games, it's no surprise why Oregon is ranked higher in that poll.
i'm an OSU alumn myself, but uhh... last time i checked our stars, the Rodgers brothers are good ole' boys from Texas...
how so? I respect what Riley does, but he hasnt been in contention for a NC game multiple times. And the other part was about how he seemed to be happy with those finishes.
One could hypothetically argue that it was his team that was in contention for a National Title in 2000.
I think it is safe to say Oregon has a better chance to make a jump to the top tier than Oregon St. I don't think it's a knock on Oregon St, I just think it's a reflection of the national impression, the amount of money donated to the universities, and the facilities. It's hard to knock a guy like Riley, given what he has done with the talent they get. Just like it's hard to knock what Oregon fans have seen from Chip in the past two years.
Oregon State has their coaches going for them. Just incredible coaches in Football and BBall. And yes HAAK, I remember the avatar. I gave you props on it. But you peaced out after that, not to be heard from on the Blazer forum for a while (I think you occasionally stayed on the OT forum).
