Joel Freeland Update

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  1. Tince

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    Repped! +1
     
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    Hmm - that's interesting, I never heard that before. Presumably Fran Vasquez is already at that point?

    And what happens if the team doesn't have a MLE? That would be odd - normally even teams vastly over the cap are allowed to sign their picks to the max rookie deal. That wouldn't apply in this case? (In other words, you aren't allowed to offer more than exactly what the rookie scale insists you should pay that player?)
     
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    Ahh, thank you. I should hang out with you more often, I might learn something. Not all of it good, I'm sure. :cheers:
     
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    As I understand it, the team has to have either the MLE available, or be under the cap, to take advantage of the loophole. If not, they can still offer the rookie scale - but that's all.
     
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    But they'd still own the player's rights? So he wouldn't be a UFA wrt the NBA? (Too many TLAs!)
     
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    KP and me apparently. PG is not a huge need on this team.
     
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    Correct. The team that drafts him retains his rights.
     
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    I sincerely hope KP reads that.
     
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    Interesting. That would be a bit of a risk for the player, then, because it might piss the team off enough so he never gets to play in the NBA.

    Next question: if this happens, is the "cap hold" (in effect in the offseason) still his rookie scale?
     
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    That's a good question.
     
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    Tince, Aug 7, 2009
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    Kudos to KP for being upfront about the situation. No GM speak at all. That said, the comments at BE are fairly pathetic on the whole. A sentence worth of pithy potshots, and very few replies to the good posts.
     
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    I just went back and read the comments, and I totally agree with what you said.
     
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    I would. It's easy money.

    That's not an elastic situation. That's "many observers" not knowing what they were talking about.

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    That explains a lot about you. :)

    That's a subtle way of saying that no one here has an opinion any more or any less valid than anybody else.
     
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    Oh, like you wouldn't sign an NBA contract unless you were guaranteed a starting spot?

    That's not actually what I was saying, but still your conclusion has merit.

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    Freeland's playing very well for Unicaja in Euroleague, which is like basketball's Champions League (which, for the benighted, is where all the best teams in Europe play each other - a bit like the playoffs (because only the top couple of teams from most countries get in) but more so (because it includes teams from a ton of countries)). He's second in "rating per minute" which is, I suppose, a bit like PER.
     
    Rastapopoulos, Dec 3, 2010
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