Great analysis of Blazer offense, with vids

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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    Wait, I thought we only ran 3 plays?
     
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    3? I thought it was only 2!
     
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    Yeah, my bad. I was inlcuding the Sergio-Rudy alleyoop as a separate play. With Sergio gone, we are back down to iso and PnR. Ah well.
     
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    With the exception of Shaq, Oden might be the strongest player in the league.
     
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    Does this guy post here? I want to rep him a million times.

    He really does a good, thorough job of breaking down the offense. It took me about an hour to go through all of it and it was time well spent. I can't wait for next season!!
     
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    What stood out to me was how little Roy and Oden hooked up. I counted about 3 times throughout the whole video. If there is one part of Roy's game I would like to see him improve on is getting GO a few easy shots a game. Driving in the lane and dishing to GO will create even more room for Roy. Hopefully their chemistry improves next year.
     
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    For everyone that says (mainly fans of other teams) that Oden looked terrible his rookie year can watch those highlights and suck it. If you don't see that he has the potential to be a good offensive player and a defensive monster, you're one biased mother f'er. I just pray he reaches his potential.
     
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    I think he used to on bbf. Or was it OLive?
     
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    Wow, the jump shot to drive ratio is scary. Great video's though.
     
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    No doubt. If all you knew about Oden was what you saw in that video, you'd probably think we had a young, slightly shorter Shaq on our hands. He just looks so strong and athletic and huge out there.

    Of course, you could put together a video that convincingly demonstrates we've got the next Eric Dampier too.

    But still...how many players in this league have a highlight reel that makes them look like a young Shaq? Not many.
     
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    I just spent about an hour watching those videos and came away with the same feeling. Granted a lot of those jumpers are open in the regular season, it became a completely different animal in the playoffs with Houston contesting everything. In addition to the comments by that poster about passing it in to Oden more, I would like to see us run more to get easy buckets. (how many times does that need to be said? :confused:)
     
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    The number of jumpshots should definitely go down.

    Andre Miller takes almost all of his shots from inside 16 feet. The guy averaged 5 free throws a game.

    Aldridge showed an increasing interest in playing in the low post last year.

    Guys are going to be looking more and more for Oden to catch any old kind of junk lobbed into the middle for the dunk.

    Batum demonstrated on his French team that he's got a good handle and a pretty nasty driving ability. I look for Nate to encourage that a little more in him. Both he and Rudy were rookies and were clearly told to just play to their greatest strength (catch-and-shoot). But both guys have a lot more game than that.

    Roy is going to be playing more off the ball, meaning he's going to be getting the ball going toward the rim more instead of creating at the top of the key.

    Bayless will probably see a few more minutes this year. He definitely is not a jump shooter by nature.

    Channing "20 foot jumper" Frye is gone.

    You just look down the line of personnel and everything points to us taking fewer jump shots next season. The lone contradiction is the return of Webster, and if you look at him as offsetting some Sergio's minutes, well, that's a tradeoff in jump shooting I'll gladly take.
     
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    Well, when only one player (Roy) could drive, and when the two low post centers were offensive liabilities (at least in terms of set plays), you'll see a lot of jump shots. The fact the team shot well and got open looks shows me that Nate built his offense around the strengths of the players he had last season.
     
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    9 years and the same offense. It's not about last year.
     
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    Really? At whose expense? As I see it:
    Last year:
    PG:
    Starter = Blake
    Backup = Sergio v. Bayless (and Sergio won this, which is saying something given Nate's distaste at Sergio's game)
    SG:
    Starter = Roy
    Backup = Rudy

    This year you've got Blake and Miller together likely to take up ALL the PG minutes - certainly more than Blake and Sergio, and you've also got Rudy almost certain to get more minutes. Maybe Roy could move to SF more, but with Webster's return and Batum's emergence, I just don't see that happening. I frankly can't see ANY minutes for Bayless, unless Blake and/or Miller go down. Now, with Blake this is possible. But how many games in his entire career has Miller missed?
     
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    Who did he have that could drive and finish in Seattle his last three years there? His teams there were built on perimeter players like Allen, Lewis, Ridnour. Plus, an older Gary Payton had some of the best offensive years of his career under Nate's coaching when he first got the Seattle gig.
     
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    Yeah, you might be right there. Bayless and Webster are going to be fighting for every scrap of playing time they can get. Between Webster and Bayless, my money is on Bayless winning out.

    But injuries happen. Rudy is playing in Europe in the summer, which isn't always great for players, and Blake gets the odd injury every once in a while. Same with Roy. You can pretty much forget about Miller missing games though.

    So at best Bayless probably gets the same number of minutes as last year.

    Damn, Bayless. Where were you a few years ago when we had point guards like NVE, Damon, Telfair, Jeff McInnis, Eric Barkey, Omar Cooke, Antonio Daniels, Dan Dickau, old Rod Strickland.....jesus we've had a depressing string of point guards.

    Andre Miller is going to be such a breath of fresh air.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Enter Andre Miller, stage left. :cheers:
     

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