Religious debate

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  1. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    but how will you keep the street sweepers doing their jobs?:dunno:

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    but then what do you believe? The Bible was created by organized religion, so are you picking and choosing which organized religion is okay? The Catholics back in the day chose which books went into the new testament and which were rejected.
     
  2. bigbailes

    bigbailes Well-Known Member

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    just go back and read any of the numerous threads on this subject to know exactly how this one will turn out.
     
  3. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    No, no, this time we are going to resolve it, once and for all. This is the thread future historians will refer to when they talk about the end of thousands of years of debate over religion.

    barfo
     
  4. rocketeer

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    it seems fairly simple to me. scientology is mocked because it was started by a science fiction writer less than 60 years ago. seems fairly easy that it could be dismissed as not being real. a similar thing could be said about mormonism and its creation less than 200 years ago.

    why would scientology or mormonism be as credible as that of christianity or judaism or islam or hinduism?
     
  5. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    why wouldn't they be? What does age have to do with it?

    There are religions older than christianity. Should we take those more seriously?

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  7. blazerboy30

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    I don't think he was implying the age is what matters. I think he was implying that if a religion is started today, based on events we know did not happen, it would be taken less seriously.
     
  8. Colonel Ronan

    Colonel Ronan Continue...?

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    We all worship the sun.

    I, on the other hand, worship the moon.
     
  9. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It depends on if you believe those events happened though.
     
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    There is nothing to debate. On the religious side you have a bunch of folks who have no proof what they believe in exist, and on the scientific side you have a bunch of folks who can't prove that the stuff on the religious folks side doesn't exist, because unfortunately, it is very hard to research something that does not exist, so you will never find proof it doesn't exist. It is similar to chasing bigfoot or the lockness monster. But much harder.
     
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    Thank God that's settled.

    Also, a random religious question. Why do people who believe in God feel the need to capitalize "He, His" etc. when they are referring to him?
     
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    Wait, so god is the loch ness monster? He is an angry and vengeful monster.
     
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    The point is that it would be much more difficult today with so much more documentation and recorded history.
     
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    That's Puff the Magic Dragon, silly!
     
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    Bigfoot is real. HOWIE saw it! :dancewookiee:
     
  17. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Well then by that logic, Ancient Greek/Roman mythology, Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, Muslim, Jainism, Sikhism are equally true.
     
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    I don't see this logic.

    Are you saying that something like the belief that lightning is bolts being thrown down from a god, which we have proven as false, is the same as a belief in a God that created the universe, which we haven't proven as false?
     
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    I don't really follow all this stuff . . . but if one believes in Adam and Eve, does that mean they don't believe in the ice age and dinosaurs and that stuff . . . or did Adam and Eve come after the dinosaur age?

    Told you I don't know much about this . . .
     
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    The real question is what do you believe? Quantum uncertainty or Deterministic physics set in motion by the big bang? Quick question, do you believe in Free Will?
     

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