Sergio, glad to see him gone

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  1. blazerboy30

    blazerboy30 Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if / how this stat would change if garbage time, when nobody plays defense, was taken out.
     
  2. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Something he won't have to worry about for a LONG time in Sacramento.

    Seriously, I'm glad he's gone as our team is better without him, but I will give him a standing ovation when he's introduced tonight. I don't hate the guy, I'm just not a fan of his game.

    BNM
     
  3. illmatic99

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    Fuck this.

    [video=youtube;h6lG2ls6fhE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6lG2ls6fhE[/video]
     
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    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    When I first read this, I saw, "could have been a half of a player.."

    See, that's the problem with Sergio - not a complete basketball player. Hell, not even half of one.
     
  5. MARIS61

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    Now you guys can focus your hate and lack of understanding of the game on getting rid of Travis.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    The whole "glad he's gone" thing.
     
  8. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Since when does accurately assessing a players flaws == hating?

    Based on my limited understanding of the game, I place very low value on a player who can't shoot, turns the ball over at an alarming rate and can't/won't play defense.

    When that player is a rookie, I am hopeful they will improve and become a more complete, more valuable player. When they still have the EXACT same flaws and shortcomings in their third season, I am less forgiving - especially when they have shown absolutely no improvement in any of those areas.

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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I'm sure Sergio is glad he's gone too ...
     
  10. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I guess that makes it unanimous.... well, almost.

    BNM
     
  11. MARIS61

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    Since when do any of your posts about Sergio have anything to do with accuracy?

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    MARIS61 Real American

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    Since Nate wasn't leaving, I'm sure he is too.

    But I bet he'd have loved to stay with these guys if they had a coach who knew how to use their offensive talents. They could have made history.
     
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    Listen, Sergio was the classic player who was waaaaaaaay overrated by the fan base. Fans liked this guy cause he made exciting alley oops. Thats fine if your'e watching the Harlem Globetrotters. The is an NBA team who is trying to win now. Sergio doesnt have the skills to be on a good team. Should we list sergios problems?

    1. Cant shoot a consistent jumper. He can work on his shot all he wants for the next 50 summers. Cant shoot.

    2. Cant defend. His defense is an absolute joke. Any coach would hate him.... not just nate.


    3. Doesnt finish well at rim at all.

    4. Cant start for his own country even backing up Rubio. Thats really all you need to know alone.

    5. Not much room for growth. Sergio isnt gonna get much better. Maybe a bit but his ceiling is very low.

    So i hope this is the last we have to talk about this guy. He looks like a deer in headlights on the court and in interviews. He was really annoying crying all last year when clearly he was lucky to be on an nba roster. So why do we waste our time talking about a guy who is the 3rd stringer for SAC considering SAC is the worst team in the NBA.

    I mean its a joke this guy gets any press... ITS SERGIO RODRIQUEZ FOR CHRIST SAKES.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    All the stats I post come from reliable sources, basketball-reference.com, nba.com and 82games.com. Please provide a SINGLE example of any inaccurate statistics I've ever posted regarding Sergio.

    If you are referring to my opinions, I don't see how they could possibly be any more "inaccurate" than your highly biased ones.

    BNM
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    They still might. I personally think it takes more than offensive talents to make history - assuming making history includes winning championships. That requires playing defense. Which ensures Sergio will never play a significant role on any team making that kind of history.

    Of course, the Kings this season may have a chance to make some history of a more inglorious type.

    BNM
     
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    Yes, very good. Thanks for the reminder. Travis IS now the weakest link of the rotation players.

    And no, I don't want to "get rid" of Travis, as in kicking him to the curb or dumping him. I want to trade him for value. I want to replace him in the rotation with a player who can competently backup LaMarcus by rebounding, defending, setting picks, hustling, and being active.
     
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    You could say the same about John Stockton. Maybe Westphal is Sergio's Frank Layden, who will mold the system around him like Layden did. Neither player was catch and shoot. Both look like bad shooters until the coach frees them to take 15 foot runners. Then they make them. As for Sergio's turnovers, anyone with even 1 turnover looks bad in McMillan's zeal for control. Sergio's assist to turnover ratio ranked 31st in the league last year, and 3rd on the Blazers. He wasn't bad at turnovers, and would have been better if the system had been geared to receive his passes, as it was for Stockton.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/stati...lit=0&season=2009&seasontype=2&avg=48&pos=all

    Sergio was 5th in efficiency per minute, after Roy, Oden, Przybilla, and Aldridge. Frye was 10th.

    http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketbal...-trail-blazers/team/playerstats/09/25/1-3-eff
    (scroll down)

    Sergio ranked 4th his rookie year, before Nate toned down his European passing.

    http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketbal...-trail-blazers/team/playerstats/07/24/1-3-eff

    He started 13 games last year. He was Blake's sub. Bayless was the garbage time player, not Sergio.

    The Spanish team determines tryout invitations depending upon how much you played for your regular team. When Sergio went to the NBA and got few minutes, it sank his chances.

    Stockton was Ricky Green's sub for his first 3 years. Sergio has been in the league 3 years and will eventually start this year after Westphal finishes experimenting. 1000 assists per year, bet on it. You'll thank me.
     
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    and i'd say it's more likely that he'll be the 3rd string pg on one of the worst teams in the league sitting behind tyreke evans and beno udrih.
     
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    This situation reminds of me of ex gf's. When you're in love they can't do anything wrong. Then after the breakup and a little time apart, you realize all of their faults and why you didn't want to be with them for the long haul.
     
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