5/18, 4 Assists from the "PG" Miller in 38 Minutes

Blake looked worse than the little corns in my shit tonight. In fact, Blake was awful. If his shot is off, he brings nothing to the table. Quickly approaching Sergio status with me. I esp loved how Nate pulled Bayless in the 2nd when JB was flowin for Blake and Blake did jack. I dunno why this organization has such a man crush on "Blakey" but if we dont trade him, we better not sign him.

 

I don't think it's all of the organization that has the Man Crush.

One thing I find interesting so far is Blake turnovers. Always in the past Blake has been defended as our starter because he doesn't turn the ball over very much Through 6 games he has 15 assists and 18 turnovers. Millers been better there with 25 assists and only 14 turnovers, still not great, but not as bad.

Miller just needs a little more time to learn his teammates. WHo to hit where and what they are going to do with it. realistically we still shouldn't expect more than 5-6 apg from him. Roy will still be wracking up the Assists on offensive sets. What we will see is an increase in fast-break points, just like we did tonight.

 

He took a lot of shots, so if you just look at the box score, then I can see why you might be concerned. Were you able to watch the game? Or just looking at the box score? He took a lot of shots when we NEEDED someone to take a shot. He played a lot of minutes without a Brandon, LMA, or Oden on the court. Not many were forced shots, what they were was trying to provide what we needed at that moment.

 

I was excited about Miller when I thought he was a pass-first PG. Now, I'm concerned considering he is dominating the ball on offense. I hope he changes the way he is leading this offense. Otherwise, thanks for popping in to comment to me.

 

I was actually at the game. Were you? It doesn't sound like it, because if you were you'd know that Aldridge didn't play, that Roy was limited to 21 minutes and Oden to 15 minutes due to the incompetent replacement refs. With our best three scorers seeing limited to no action, and Travis Outlaw playing like complete shit, exactly who was Miller supposed to pass to? During most of his minutes he was clearly the best scoring option we had on the court.

You've turned this into a personal crusade against Miller based solely on armchair analysis of the boxscore. Try watching the games before you jump to incorrect conclusions and continue to make a fool of yourself.

Miller had ZERO turnovers tonight in almost 38 minutes. Blake had 3 TOs in 22 minutes, Roy 3 TOs in 21 minutes and Outlaw 3 TOs in 22 minutes.

BTW, in case you didn't notice, the Blazers won tonight - and they wouldn't have done so without Andre Miller. With Blake shooting 3-12, Roy 3-10 and Outlaw a stellar 1-7, I find it laughable that you single out Miller for his poor shooting. Miller may not have shot the ball well, but with Aldridge out, Roy and Blake having off nights, Travis Outlaw being completely worthless on the offensive end, and Oden in constant foul trouble, it was Miller than kept the Blazers in this game. He got the Nuggets big men in foul trouble by driving the lane and getting them to leave their feet - and converted 8-9 FTs. Game ball goes to Oden for scoring 16 points in less than 16 minutes and taking over in the 4th quarter (until he fouled out on one of the worst calls I've ever seen). Outside of Oden, Andre Miller and Juwan Howard were our best players tonight.

BNM

 

Not a Blazers guy, but I don't think too highly of Miller. I wouldn't get your hopes up too high.

 

If you use last Season as a measuring stick 5.3 apg gets a player in the top 20 in the league for apg. 6.5 gets a player in the top 15 and 7.2 in the top 10. Put into perspective if we go back 20 years 6.6 = top 20, 7.4 = top 15 and 8.0 = top 10. Go back another 10 years and 5.8 gets a player in the top 10.

If you look at the Team stats Teams scored 9ppg less in 08-09 than in 88-89 and also averaged 5 less assists per game. 78-79 teams averaged very similar numbers in both apg and ppg than in 99-89 but the assists were much more evenly distributed.

Maybe our expectations are not accurate for what a pass first PG is in this era of basketball.

 

Miller (by far) is the leader this preseason in shots attempted. He was leading prior to tonight as well.

It's not a "personal crusade". It's me realizing that perhaps the Blazers didn't sign the facilitator I thought they were signing. Congrats on going to the game, by the way. I'm not sure how that trumps me listening on the radio and looking at the stats, but whatever. Plus, Billups was a plus-10 on the court tonight.

The Blazers are struggling right now. They had to come back from 10 points down in the 4th quarter. A great win, and I love what I saw from Oden and Roy in the 4th, but I'm not sold on the new guy yet. 4 assists in 38 minutes? I thought he was supposed to create easy baskets for less-talented players.

 

PappaG Andre has also lead the team in Minutes played. Prior to tonight Field goal attempts based on a per 30 minute basis

Outlaw 13.6
LMA 12.6
Andre 12.3
Oden 11.7
Roy 10.2

So yes he has been shooting more frequently than Oden or Roy, but from what I've been able to tell Roy hasn't been trying to take over games like he normally would, it's preseason.

 

Outlaw is shooting way too much, and he was finally benched tonight in favor of Webster and then Batum.

Miller is shooting more than both Oden and Roy and is basically tied with LMA. This concerns me, which is why I created this thread.

 

We won. Who cares.

 

I wouldn't be too concerned Roy doesn't seem to be working real hard to get his sots so far and frankly the way he's shooting that's not a bad thing. It's preseason it will all balance out once it matters.

For his career Miller has average 11.7 fga per game. Year before last was a career high of 14 fga per game, but he also played his largest number of minutes and that translated to 11.4 fga per 30.

 

wat?

 

It's hard to rack up assists when the guys you are passing to are shooting 3-10, 3-12 and 1-7. If Blake or Outlaw could hit a wide open shot, Miller would have easily had another 3 - 4 assists.

Perhaps then you wouldn't have felt it necessary to start this thread - yeah, right. Who am I kidding.

Miller led this team to a win when Alridge didn't play, Oden was limited to 15 minutes, Roy to 21 minutes and Outlaw shot 1-7. Yet, you consider that a bad thing. Whatever.

BNM

 

This is what I'm talking about. Dude claims he was ecstatic about signing Miller, but he was criticizing the guy back before training camp. Now he is suddenly "concerned"...... okay.

Standby for angry PM from PapaG in 3......2......1.

 

I much preferred the motion in our offense, transition threats, and easy baskets our big men got when Miller was in the game.

Blake played SG tonight big guy and sat in the corner as usual taking easy shots. Miller's shots were many end of buzzer, tip in attempts, etc when no one had the balls to take a shot.

 

I was being sarcastic. about preferring Blakes stat line. Blake is realistically a poor mans Steve Kerr.

 

Two things:

1. It's way too early for me to be concerned. If things are like this constantly in, say, December or January (at the earliest), then I'll be concerned.

2. I've never seen someone average 20 posts/day (yes I did the math) on ANY forum I've ever been a part of. Very impressive, well done..