5/18, 4 Assists from the "PG" Miller in 38 Minutes

Strickland Career 3pt% .282
Thomas .290
Payton .317

Man those guys could light some tits up from 3.

 

Good ole FG%
Payton .466
Thomas .452
Strickland .454

Andre .460

 

Barely true at 764 to 627, but still far, far better than Andre, Payton, Strick or Thomas.

Given that easily 1/3 of his attempts were buzzer-beater long shots taken on Nate's direction his true stat would be closer to Stockton's otherwise.

 

Just search-and-replace stockton with strickland. It's not like he'll know. He's said numerous times he doesn't follow any NBA other than the Blazers.

 

Barely true is still true, regardless if you like it or not.

 

Maybe he would liek to break down how many buzzer ebater attempts all PG's have, as they tend to take more than any other position.

 

I take it you only saw the box score? Haven't we all learned that box scores do not tell the story of the game? Miller played great and I am really glad we have him. Now that I have seen him twice this year with the team.

 

You didn't answer the question (no surprise there). The question had absolutely nothing to do with shooting range. That's a different issue. The question was related to FGA/AST ratio - a stat you brought up and claimed Miller's career FGA/AST ratio of 1.58 made him a selfish ballhog who is "all about making himself look better than his teammates".

So, by your definition, point guard A has a career FGA/AST ratio of 1.58 = selfish ballhog who is "all about making himself look better than his teammates"

by the same definition, point guard B with a career FGA/AST ratio of 1.63 is an even bigger, more selfish ballhog who is even more "all about making himself look better than his teammates".

That is your own definition and your own exact words.

So, if you believe that definition to be true, and that Andre Miller is a selfish ballhog who is "all about making himself look better than his teammates", then by your definition, so is Terry Porter.

The only other possible conclusion is that you are wrong and Andre Miller with a career FGA/AST ratio is NOT a selfish ballhog who "all about making himself look better than his teammates".

So which is it? Either both Andre and Terry are selfish ballhog, shoot first PGs, or neither of them are. Which is it?

BNM

 

Miller takes more shots than anybody else and the team is playing .500 basketball against 4 bad teams and 2 good teams.

I don't see where I posted anything that wasn't based in fact. Why does the truthful title of this thread and my commentary on it make me a "troll"? A "troll" isn't somebody who you don't agree with. I think BengalDuck is being foolish with his posts about Roy, but that certainly doesn't make him a "troll" in my view.

We've had thread after thread bashing Travis Outlaw; are those posters "trolls"?

Miller isn't performing in the role that I assumed he would take on this team. For all of the talk about Roy/LMA adapting their game to Miller, it would be nice if Miller started to adapt his game to Roy/LMA/and especially Oden ASAP.

 

That'd be great. What i really like about Miller, though, is to not only adapt to players, but adapt to each GAME differently. See, last night, he wan't really able to adapt to Roy, LMA, or Oden, since neither was in the game all that much. And that has been the case a lot of the preseason when Miller has been on the floor. Same with Rudy. So he has adapted by taking on more of a role to help the team win. We don't know what will happen in mid-November, January, etc. Based on seeing the way he controls his pace and his shot selctions and passes, I would say that he will adapt to them when he is able to play with them more often.

In the 4th quarter last night, once Brandon entered the game, with 8.5 minutes left in the game, he shot 1-3. 2 of the attempts, and the make, were layups, and the 20 footer was with the shot clock expiring. He didn't force up jump shots, he didn't look to be a ball hog. He played off of Brandon, and off of Greg. He adapted to them being in the game quite well, and played off of them quite well. Well to the tune of a 22-5 run.

You can go further and break down his entire game, as opposed to just taking a simple pass at the box score, and assuming the worst. His first shot came at the beginning of the second quarter. he missed a long jumper to try to beat the shot clock. On the floor with him was Bayless, Joel, Outlaw, and Webster. he had assists on their next two made baskets. After that, greg quickly entered and left, and Juwan howard came in for Martell. Andre/Bayless/Travis/Juwan/Joel. He missed a jumper, and then a layup on a fast break.
Blake then came in for Bayless, and Batum for Outlaw. Miller/Blake/Batum/Juwan/Joel. He made a layup. Then missed a layup. Then missed a shot right before the half he put up with the shot clock expiring. So in the first half, he went 1-6. he played aminute and a half with brandon. Hardly stealing shots from him. Played 45 seconds with Greg. Didn't steal shots from him either. In the third quarter, he didn't play at all with brandon, and played a minute and a half with Greg. Played in the third quarter, again, primarily with Joel, Travis, Blake or Bayless, Juwan, batum. There were two more instances in the third quarter where he had to force up a shot with the clock expiring. And one more in the 4th before Brandon entered. So I have counted I believe at least 5 attempts of his that were trying to beat the clock. And a good majority of his attempts with neither Greg or Brandon on the floor. In other words, he adapted well to the game, and what was needed of him. And that's something I have never seen Steve Blake do. Yes, Steve will have his big scoring nights. They're nights where he is hitting his iopen jumpers, and the team feeds him. It's not him making an effort to score because it is needed from him. He doesn't generally adapt to changing situations. Really, he doesn't have the ability to. he is what he is. That's why miller is better for this team, and will prove to be better for this team. Too often, when guys went cold, we were forced to watch them continue to be cold, because we had that and spot up shooters. Miller gives us one mroe player with the ability to score when it might be needed from the team. The ability to try to make something happen when nobody else is able or willing to.

rr7

 

The other thing Miller gives us is another player that can penetrate and draw fouls and get to the FT line. This is a huge asset as it gets the other teams bigs in foul trouble and also lets us score with the clock stopped - very important when coming from behind in the 4th quarter.

Last night, Miller drew one foul each on Nene, Andersen and Martin - Denver's three best bigs.

BNM

 

Also, on top of drawing fouls, it's usually easier to get tips on a missed layup, when the defenders will converge on Miller, than it is on a long missed jumper, which often lead to longer rebounds, and sometimes, fast breaks. Miller missed 3 layups last night. All 3 were rebounded by the TrailBlazers.

rr7

 

QFT, there is no arguing that. Oden looks better I think, but there is something going on with LA and Roy, wether it is them, their minutes, jitters, or... something else... I want to see things get worked out sooner than later. Most pundits said Roy's numbers would go down with Miller, but that LA and Oden would look better... so far only Oden appears to be getting more looks.

 

So you like him as a replacement for Roy. That's gotta be a lonely view.

 

Anyone who watches regularly knows who Nate designated for out-of-timeout desperation shots. They also know most of Sergio's 3's were in that situation. Quibbling over tiny fractions makes you appear to be a newbie who doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

weren't most of our buzzer beater attempts outlaw airballs or blake clankers? I would estimate Sergio's buzzer beater attempts to be more like 10 than 250, but hey, I only watched every game, what do I know.

 

Miller playing great is not the issue.

Miller played great, or good if you want to lose the hyperbole, on his 4 previous teams.

His teams however, all played like crap under his "direction". Then they got rid of him.

I'd be more excited if he played like crap, but our team played great.