5/18, 4 Assists from the "PG" Miller in 38 Minutes

That would be a truly awesome paradox! I like your thinking on this one.

 

Okay, thanks for pointing out the truth that Sergio is way closer to being a true PG like John Stockton than Andre will ever be, regardless if you like it or not.

 

No tv so far, as you well know.

But the radio play by play had the ball in Miller's hands 'til very late in the clock most of the time. It sounded like Miller against the other team, with other Blazers mentioned primarily in the final 3-5 secs of the few posessions that didn't end with a Miller attempt.

I'll factor in your well-known hatred of Travis and Steve and your penchant for lying by omission and assume I'm spot on with my impression of the game.

 

That is such a heavily-edited distortion of anything I have ever posted that I'll just ignore most of it.

In shooting range, Andre is closer to Joel than he is to Brandon.

Brandon can hit over anyone from anywhere.

Andre can barely leave the paint without leaving his shot behind. Most PF's have better range.

Obviously Brandon should get many attempts.

Andre and Joel, many less.

Gosh, I hope you can grasp this complicated concept.

 

Ah yes, the old-dribble-around-pointlessly-wasting-time-and-then-jacking-up-a-low-percentage-shot-as-the-shot-clock-expires play. You can hardly give Nate credit for inventing that play. It has been in the Blazers play book since at least the Dunleavy days. In fact, it was Damon's inability to properly execute this play (i.e. make the shot) that often led to him being benched in favor of Greg Anthony during the fourth quarter of close games.

It became a staple of the Blazers offense during the Mo Cheeks era. He seemed to call in just about every other play.

Given Steve Blake's ability to actually make an open shot, I can see why Nate left it in the Blazers playbook. However, given his back-ups complete inability to make an open shot if his life depended on it, I do blame note for not eradicating it from the playbook when Sergio was here.

With the exception that Damon occasionally made the shot, seeing Sergio (aka Dribble Boy) out there running that play time, after time, after time reminded me of the good old days when Damon and Nick Van Exel shared PG duty of the Blazers.

The good news is Miller seems to know his own limitations and rarely calls that play for himself the way Sergio did. He seems to prefer to attack the defense, draw fouls and get to the FT line.

BNM

 

Stop avoiding the question. Shooting range has nothing to do with FGA/AST. There is no mention of distance in that formula.

So, if point guard A has a career FGA/AST ratio of 1.58 and is, by your definition, a selfish, ballhog, shoot first PG who "is all about making himself look better than his teammates", what does that make point guard B who has a career FGA/AST ratio of 1.63?

It's a simple, direct question that requires a simple, direct answer. Don't try to avoid answering it (again) by bringing in unrelated variables and other players. Just focus on the question, as asked, and answer it.

BNM

 

Stop avoiding reality. The nonsensical question was only asked to avoid answering my point, and is unanswerable in the form you offer it.

"If poster A dislikes Miller and poster B dislikes Travis and Steve, does that make Joel a PG?"

Shot attempts are, or should be, directly related to the likelyhood of them being the best shot the team can get. That's Miller's job assignment.

He took 18 shots and made only 5, while assisting only 4 times in 38 minutes.

You would have burned Sergio at the stake for such a dismal performance, had he ever done that poorly.

It will be a rare time indeed when Andre Miller is the best shooter we have on the court.

 

My well known hatred of Steve????? Please provide ONE example. I have ALWAYS been VERY pro Steve Blake.

Here's just one example of my "well-known hatred" of Steve Blake"

You're a liar and a troll. Plain and simple.

BNM

 

I would have been thrilled if sergio could have shot 18 and made 5 buckets, with a career average of 3.6 he never was productive enough to make such a comparison.

 

Stop avoiding the question.

Player A: FGA/AST = 1.58
Player B: FGA/AST = 1.63

Which one is the selfish ballhog, shoot first PG?

Answer the question.

BNM

 

Again, you distort and re-write my posts to mean the opposite.

Pretty sure you and everyone else knows I'm talking about being put in cold off the bench with 1.3 secs on the clock for the halfcourt shot so Roy and Blake's stats don't take a hit on a prayer shot. It was often Sergio's first touch of the game at the end of the 1st or 3rd quarter.

It was a regular occurrence the last 3 seasons and you claim to attend games.

 

Andre Miller.

Happy?

 

I think you mean "if Sergio would have ever done that well".

Name one time in Sergio's entire 3 year NBA career when he played 38 minutes and committed ZERO turn overs. Name one time in his entire 3 year when Sergio got to the FT line 9 times in one game. Name one time in Sergio's entire 3 year career when he drew three fouls on the opponents three best big men. Name one time when Sergio held one of the best PGs in the game to 11 points on 2-6 shooting. Name one time where he did ANY of those things, let alone all of them in the same game.

You are again trying to avoid the question. This thread has nothing to do with Sergio Rodriguez. He no longer plays for the Blazers. They gladly paid the worst team in the league to take him off their hands - where he is now 3rd on their depth chart at PG. That makes him the worst PG on the worst team in the NBA. Weren't you saying that Sergio was going to flourish in Westphal's system. Unless your definition of flourish includes improving his towel waving and hand clapping skills, you're WRONG once again.

BNM

 

Totally true, and not the least bit surprising to anyone who has ever seen the poor shooting, no defense, human turn over machine play a minute of basketball.

He'll be out of the league after this season - if Sacramento doesn't cut him sooner to free up a roster spot for some promising D-leaguer. Perhaps he can still carve out a nice career for himself as a 3rd string PG in some obscure European league - Lichtenstein perhaps.

BNM

 

Good PG's rarely take 18 attempts, especially if they only make 5.

But here is Sergio taking 14 shots, the most he ever took in an NBA game.

He made 11 of them (78.6%) for 23 pts, threw 10 assists, had 4 def boards, 3 steals, 4 to, 3 pf, in 30 minutes.

[video=youtube;YcqJ1sBLfU8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcqJ1sBLfU8[/video]

 

MARIS, you must be pretty proud of yourself.

 

As they say (whomever "they" are) even the sun shines on a dog's ass once in awhile ...

 

That was Sergio as he came to this team 3 years ago.

Wow, player-developer Nate worked wonders with all that talent, didn't he?