Blazers Have A Ploy To Give Brandon Roy The Ball More

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  1. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/11/blazers_have_a_ploy_to_give_br.html

     
  2. andalusian

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    More options are good, as long as they keep an open mind about it and go away from it if it does not work.

    Roy taking someone one-on-one is a good weapon.
     
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    alex42083 Thanks Brandon

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    Any way to get our best player the ball in his hands more and let him work is a good thing to me. We're not going to beat everyone by 20 and have everyone getting their touches, so we're going to need Brandon to help close out the good teams. It'll be interesting to see if we see Brandon's numbers rise a bit, or see him create a bit more.
     
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    It's just a ploy to keep the ball from Dre. Why are they telling the league our secret code words?!
     
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    Y'all forgot about Dre.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    ugh. iso plays do NOT promote good ball movement/player movement.
     
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    Poor decision IMO. The reason our team has started to play well on offense is because of the fantastic ball movement. I can't believe our coach wants to stop that ball movement by holding it.


    Coming soon to an arena near you.


    I know he thinks it will change, but it won't
     
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    Definition of insanity, right? Looks like perhaps Mr. Sonic needs to be committed... :dunno:
     
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    What happened to letting Dre call the plays? I thought Nate handed him the keys to the offense. Are we back to Nate calling all the plays, or sometimes calling the plays, or is Dre still doing that, mostly?
     
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    Here is how I think it went down.

    Brandon: I am not getting the ball enough since that new guy has been calling plays.

    Nate: What should we do?

    Brandon: Put the ball back in my hands and let me go 1 on 1.

    Nate: But we are playing well.

    Brandon: But we won 54 games with us having to struggle to win against those teams we just blew out on the road.

    Nate: Good point. Forget about everything that is working, hold the ball until the clock is running out and create a shot.
     
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    So during the offseason we wanted to add another playmaker so this team wasn't dependent on Roy running 70% of the offense and causing us to get bounced in the first round.

    We finally have a good stretch of games where other players are creating shots and now some want to make sure "Roy gets his"?

    How about just letting Roy score his ~18ppg in the flow of a team game without him being the entire offensive focal point? We have some of the worst guard and wing defense in the leauge, how about Roy worries about being the teams #1 wing defender?

    Is this really about what's best for the team or just what's best for Roy.
     
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    You do realize that this will all be situational, don't you? I mean, every team with a star player designs clear-out plays for them occasionally. No new news here, IMO.
     
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    No, we're going to do this on every single play. Season's lost. Fire Nate. :NOTMARIS:
     
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    I heard the Blazers are appealing to the league to use it retroactively - so we are actually 0-9.

    Just FYI.
     
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    I'm posting this from my iPhone as I head off to the nearest bridge. 0-9?! Seriously! We couldn't even beat Minnesota at home?

    As for 'Dre calling his own plays, the article pretty clearly mentions Blake trying to get the ball to Roy. And Roy kicking out to Rudy. I don't remember a lineup where we had Blake-Miller-Rudy-Roy-Joel out on the court, so I am assuming Andre was on the bench. Andre gets to call his own plays. Steve not so much.
     
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    Bwahahahaha...

    But it's true. We are using it on every play.

    And, despite all the paranoia, MM is correct. This team was designed and coach specifically to frustrate him and his need for a fast pace Loyola-Marymount type offense from the 80's. In fact, I believe MM is starting a new league next week where they won't be allowed to defend in order to speed up the game. It's called horse.
     
  17. magnifier661

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    I doubt he uses it all the time. Just trying to mix things up more, especially on those games when our role players aren't doing so well. Sometime you have to have your superstar carry the team until the role players get back on track. So instead of the normal isolation we see with a pick and roll or pop more like it, Nate can design a few more plays to combat those situations.

    I'm not against that at all. The more plays the better for the team. Too many times we are too damn predictable.
     
  18. Nikolokolus

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    If executed properly by Roy it sounds like this particular iso is as much about him finding an open cutter as it is him lowering his head and getting to the rim. I get what you are saying about the iso being kind of weak sauce as far as the team game goes, but in small doses maybe this is the kind of thing that can mix Roy's one-on-one dominance with Dre's creativity with the ball.
     
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    The way it was explained, it doesn't sound much like iso to me. But I get what mediocre is saying. You don't want less movement all the time. From what I believe, it's just something they can use when times are tough scoring-wise.
     
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    It simply amazes me that when anyone brings up a faster pace, the first thing some of you bring up is Phoenix, Loyola Maymount, the Knicks, GS etc.

    What we did in our last two games at home, and on the road in parts of our last two games was push the ball, and moved the ball, and it worked well.

    Last year we held the ball a lot more, and good defensive teams figured out how to stop it.
     

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