This is from another board, its someone (who is respected and known for providing correct insight into Wizards rumors) replying to another posters post. Sorry for confusing anyone! "nate33 wrote: "Spykes wrote: If Portland is looking for a good SF for expirings and a young player, I think Washington is a good place to start. They're still pretty bad this season, and that's with a fairly healthy crew." Agreed. It's looking like Butler and Arenas are going to have problems co-existing in Flip's system. I think Washington would consider trading Butler for the right pieces. Fernandez must be included in any potential trade. The trick is to work out the filler to make the salaries match. Butler for Fernandez + Blake + Outlaw would be fine. Butler for Fernandez + Pryzbilla would work, but it leaves Portland thin up front. Butler for Fernandez + Webster + Outlaw/Blake would also work."
I'd do it. Butler has had a rough start to his season, but I suspect that won't last forever. I say buy low if you can, worst case scenario is that he can't be any worse than what Martell is providing and next year he'll be an expiring contract.
Yeah Caron >>>>>> Rudy although I suspect Rudy will be an offensive beast if his reigns are ever loosened.
Then good on Rudy. You've got to give value to get value and frankly I think Bayless can fill whatever backup shooting guard hole Rudy's departure would create (totally different styles of play, but an and-one is just as good as a 3 in my book). Blazers get a former all-star 3 in the prime of his career who has/can play very good perimeter D and who also provides experience and toughness to a team woefully short on the stuff. Miller/Blake Roy/Bayless Caron/Batum (when healthy) LMA/(Dante/Howard) Oden/Przy Looks good to me.
I disagree, Rudy is not going to sign an extension here and Butler would be the perfect transition to Nic in two or three years. I've seen people on these and other boards talking about giving up Rudy for Battier (who isn't half the offensive player and two years older), IMO this is the most attainable and realistic upgrade at SF. G-Wall would be way more costly to get, Prince will most likely never be the same player (ruptured disk), while Washington is strapped with high-priced, aging players. Timing would be perfect!
He's primarly an offensive player, isn't that great of a 3 point shooter. Dunno, just never been enamored with him. Prefer Gerald Wallace.
He's always been a good defender until this year where he just looks lazy. (Look at his steal numbers)
I'd do a package trade to also get a backup 4 or something, but Butler straight up for Rudy + Blake/Outlaw/Webster or whatever, I wouldn't do. They would have to sweeten the pot.
I only really know him when he was on the L*kers, and he was kind of a lazy defender there too. A big complaint of many of my friends but he would put some good numbers up scoring-wise. I've heard some complaints about his heart/desire to win too...who knows, maybe just the environment i was in.
Yes, he's mentally unstable in that regard, but playing for a contender would change that. Part of the reason I think he's being lazy is because the Wiz are losing and Arenas is shutting him out.
I think that after so long of losing Butler just needs a reboot, so to speak. The Princeton offense isn't a good fit for him. It is a more team focused offense, where he fits better in a system where he is a "featured piece".
Butler would become our second best player the second the deal was completed. Of course you do that deal.
