I would trade Bosh for Bynum, and that would solve all the problems

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  1. deception

    deception JBB Banned Member

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    i suspect gasol's injury has a lot to do with this. u guys are selectively looking at a very small and skewed sample size (e.g the start of this season with gasol missing most of the games thus far) instead of the last two years. if u looked at the last two years, particularly last years playoffs where he closed out games with gasol and odom against legit centre's like nene and dwight u would arrive at the same conclusion ive arrived at- coach jackson doesnt trust the kid.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Depends on the situation. If he needs defense, he'll go with Bynum. On offense, he may prefer the more proven Gasol and Odom. In really tight games, I can see him doing offensive/defensive substituitions on every dead ball.

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    oden over durant? the same oden who share's minutes with joel pryzbilla (sp.)? the nba is changing- its a guard dominated league.
     
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    shankyoass Ceci n'est pas une pipe.

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    dude, he played gasol at the five on dwight "freakin" howard in crunch time during the finals. bynum was languishing on the bench during the critical minutes of the playoffs- he doesnt trust the kid, end of discussion!!!
     
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    The last two years Bynum was coming off those freak injuries and didn't have the reps to be ready for playoff basketball. Prior to him missing time he was on the floor to close out games with Gasol.
     
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    The regular season might be dominated by guard play, but come playoffs it's still a big man's league.

    For the record though I would have selected Durant ahead of Oden because I think Durant has a certain "it" factor about him that I don't see with Oden.
     
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    gott home from school? what did u learn today in the fifth grade? u all excited about your sex ed classes?
     
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    if mitch went into coach jackson's office tonight and solicited his opinion about a potential bosh-bynum swap, how would he respond? absolutely not? hell yeah? hold off on such a trade until the trade deadline and we get a better assessment of our team?
     
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    i want boob to answer the last question i posed to shape as well
     
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    absolutely not
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    That was last year. Bynum was 21. He had almost no prior play-off experince and had just come back from missing 32 games right before the start of the play-offs. It wasn't just Phil's comfort level. The rest of the Laker's weren't used to playing with Bynum. He was in foul trouble a lot last year in the play-offs, which also limited his minutes.

    In any case, Bynum is a year older now, playing much better and getting more minutes and closing out games. As a Blazer fan, I HATE that, but I can't pretend like it's not happening. Nothing personal against Bynum, but it sucks that he's developing into a dominant big man. With Gasol and Odom, that gives Phil a LOT of versatilty in his front court. It also lets them weather injuries better than most teams. As you mentioned, Pau has missed 11 of 17 games, but the Lakers are still 14-3 and in 1st place. They have absolutely no reason to trade Bynum, in the first year of his extension for Bosh in the last year of his current contract.

    And, in case you missed it - Bynum is BYC1. So, IT AIN'T HAPPENING.

    BNM
     
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    i think the correct answer is "hold off"
     
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    You are wrong though. The Lakers wouldn't do it, it would be too much of a sacrifice on defense.

    and it is too bad, the Raps would be so much better defensively with Bynum patrolling the paint.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I believe Phil would say, "absolutely not". For several reasons:

    Bosh and Pau are largely redundant. Both play a similar style. Pau's scoring is a little lower, but he's the second option on offense after Kobe, where Bosh is the first option in Toronto. Bosh doesn't really give you anything else you dont' already get from the Gasol/Odom combo.

    Bynum is a beast that defends the paint and keeps other teams from getting easy baskets. Bosh isn't. With Bynum, the Lakers are one of the best defensive teams in the league. Without him, they are slightly above average defensively.

    Bosh is in the last year of his contract and could leave and sign elsewhere next summer. Bynum is in the first year of his extension and locked up for several more years.

    The Lakers are the defending champs and off to a 14-3 start and in first place - in spite of injuries. They played great last season and are playing great this season. Why rock the boat and make a change when it isn't needed. It could backfire. You know Bynum and Pau can play effectively together. Can Bosh and Pau? Who knows. Since they have similar styles, they could end up getting in each other's way. Why risk it? You only make a move like this when you're desperate. That's why it's a good move for the Raps, but a poor move for the Lakers.

    Finally, if I was Phil, I'd say, "WTF Mitch? You KNOW Bynum is BYC1 and we can't possibly trade him for equal value to a team over the cap!"

    BNM
     
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    thats your opinion but i have good read on the zen master.plus, the lakers having been trying to cleanse themselves of bynum since he was picked straight out of high school
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yeah, that's why they gave him that huge extension last October (you know the extension that makes him BYC1 and untradeable for all practical purposes) in spite of being barely 21 years old and extremely raw and unproven at the time. Now that he's much more experienced and having a breakout season, I'm sure they can't wait to dump him.

    BNM
     
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    This is gonna turn into a long Blazer thread... i hope
     
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    Actually the correct answer is .. "Ask Kobe"
     

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