Merged: KP has to make a trade... its not even a question anymore.

Re: KP has to make a trade... its not even a question anymore.

Luck.

 

Re: KP has to make a trade... its not even a question anymore.

I'm sure he probably does have to make some kind of move, but I think you are setting yourself up for a major disappointment by setting your sights on Gay or Wallace. This team just doesn't have the trade-able assets right now to get one of those guys. Think lower (much, much lower) guys like James Posey, Matt Barnes, Larry Hughes, Maurice Evans, etc. Steve and Travis' expiring deals do have some value, but teams are not exactly going to be lining up to get rid of highly productive players for just salary relief; they are going to want at least serviceable replacements, or at least some promising young talent to go along with them.

If you look at what we have to offer it's not all that exciting.
Guys likely to be very available:
Mills - Very low trade value (hasn't played a minute in the NBA, busted foot, late second rounder)
Pendergraph - low trade value (also hasn't played a minute in the NBA, but at least looked effective in Summer League, but he'd be a throw in at best until scouts get a look at him in a real NBA game)
Cunningham - middling trade value (he's shown he can be somewhat effective as a tweener in the rotation, but with his salary he'd still be nothing more than a sweetener)
Webster - low trade value (inconsistent, very streaky shooter with a 4 years left on a 4-5 million per year contract).
Rudy - average to above average trade value (exciting player when he's hot, a good outside shooter, but very slight of build, dodgy handles and showing himself to have durability issues,and overlaps at the position of the team's best player, but a lot of teams would probably like to have him)
Blake - middling trade value (his 4 million expiring contract and former ability to hit the three when left open makes him somewhat valuable, but he's not likely to get you more than a rotation player because of his very subpar performance this year)
Travis - average trade value (The injury to his foot really deflates his value, but some team betting on him being able to return to form might like his outside shooting ability and his ability to generate instant offense, the 3.6 million expiring contract he carries would also make him slightly more attractive than most)

Guys unlikely to be traded because of team needs and/or because they are actually producing:
Jerryd - average to above average trade value (hyper athletic, starting to show sings of consistency and efficiency, still big questions about his ability to play the point, but the rest of what he's doing makes him appealing as an off the bench scorer and sparkplug type)
Miller - average to above average trade value (veteran, has proven himself to be efficient in the past, on a reasonable contract, but he's old, not necessarily a leader and has trouble hitting jumpers)
Joel - above average trade value (a good defensive presence, a fantastic rebounder, but mostly a non-factor on offense, still he makes a reasonable contract, he's a legit 7'1" almost zero chance he gets traded unless he was part of a deal that brought back an above average center and another power forward.)

All in all, I see very little opportunity to generate 2-for-1 or 3-for 1 trades unless outgoing players are some of those guys on the shelf mixed in with draft rights to some of our overseas players.

 

Re: KP has to make a trade... its not even a question anymore.

so you mean you can trade crap for stars in the nba? its called a good gm.

if kp is so great then he should be able to help us. you guys jerk off to how great he is... welll heres his chance to prove it. i think he will fail.

 

Re: KP has to make a trade... its not even a question anymore.

Would getting Al Harrington and sticking LMA at C be awful? We could then start Miller and be an uptempo team.

 

Re: KP has to make a trade... its not even a question anymore.

how bout draft picks? im sure half the nba thinks we are lotto bound.

we dont need more projects.

 

Re: KP has to make a trade... its not even a question anymore.

KP has been very mediocre in my opnion. He had one or two strong drafts, but other than that he's not exactly shown himself to be a complete GM

 

This is the bottom line for Pritchard on this season...

He really has to take a stance here. There's no middle ground with our injuries.

1. Make the playoffs.

2. Throw in the towel and try for a good lotto pick.

As obvious as that sounds, its his call to make. But he has to deal if wants playoffs. Theres no chance this roster can beat good teams. no chance. So KP has to decide if he should trade these young guys and continue to build around roy, la, odem, rudy, and batum or just stash away more young talent, get a lotto pick (top 10 if no moves are made) and deal this ummer with some sign and trades.

But the question is... do you go playoffs or lotto? If healthy this team should make teh playoffs next year.

 

Re: KP has to make a trade... its not even a question anymore.

It's not a terrible idea, but I don't think it would work as long as Nate is calling the shots from the sidelines.

 

Re: KP has to make a trade... its not even a question anymore.

I don't think you trade what is likely to be lotto pick in a good draft when your biggest issue is that you are completely depleted and your franchise center just went down again. If anything KP may decide he really needs Cole Aldrich or some other big. To get them he may try to leverage a lotto pick and other assets to move up and reload.

 

Al Harrington is a more frustrating chucker than Travis Outlaw and Zach Randolph combined.

 

I would have suggested David Lee but i believe he is an expiring contract to begin with so the Knicks have no incentive to trade him right now, at least not for other expirings.

 

Re: This is the bottom line for Pritchard on this season...

You act like there's really a choice. A trade is very unlikely to be the difference between the playoffs and the lottery. Or if it is the difference it's probably either squeaking in as the 8th or 7th seed. I'd rather miss the playoffs and see KP make good strategic trades than just start a firesale to fill holes temporarily, and completely sacrifice future seasons worth of depth.

We all agree he needs some more bodies and probably has to jettison some of the flotsam (Webster, Blake, Outlaw and Mills would be a start) but I don't see any curative moves at this point, a trade is most likely to just help the team stay afloat.

 

Lee is BYC anyways. Forget it.

 

BRING BACK HA!

 

any player who can score would be a welcome at backup PF

 

wait till we get whipped by the knicks...

is that the low point?

 

Not really.

 

Here's my idea:

Steve Blake, Martell Webster, Jeff Pendergraph and the draft rights to Claver for Marvin Williams, and Jason Collins. Which should work even though Williams is a BYC player because the difference between his rookie scale deal and his 7.5 million contract is negligible enough and the Blazers are 1.4 million under the cap and could absorb the difference.

Atlanta gets salary relief, they get a serviceable backup 3 in Webster, a decent prospect in Victor and a big to replace Collins. The Blazers get a decent flex forward in Williams who can defend and shoot from the perimeter a 7 footer who can fill in spot minutes behind Joel and plays fundamentally sound defense (even if the rest of his game is fucking awful).

 

dude.. why would a top 5 team in the east trade for our crap.

think bottom feeders...

bobcats
grizz
clips
g.s.
wizards
pacers
twolves