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  1. Schilly

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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    I didn't say we were Combining them.

    We trade Blake to them. As a result a TE is generated for us with a Value of 4mill. We then use our new TE to Acquire say Dorell Wright from them.
     
    Schilly, Dec 15, 2009
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    I just meant it works financially, but as for team fit, we have one healthy SF right now in Webster, who has been super inconsistent. We have two guards off the bench, both of which are PGs. Or, you can call Bayless a SG, regardless, what the players on our depth chart provide us is 4 different options at the 2 guard spots, but only one option at SF< unless we have Brandon playing SF. I'd rather a 3 guard rotation of Roy, Miller and Bayless, with Roy getting to play all of his minutes at the SG position, and then a SF rotation of Jones and Martell over Roy getting a healthy does of minutes at the 3. The other(small) benefit of Jones is, while he is kind of an expiring contract, because of the team options, we could still trade him before July. Blake, once our season is done, we can only move in a S&T. With Jones, we can move him in June, and then the receiving team can just waive him, giving them an easy way to clear cap space.
    Once people start to get healthy, it looks like ti would likely be either Batum or Rudy first, you slide one of Jones or Martell further down the bench. Jones isn't playing a ton anyways, so if he is benched, how mcuh does it matter, and if he outplays Martell, he can win the backup SF role when Batum returns. We also don't lose our ability to spread the floor, as he is a better outside shooter than Blake and Martell.
     
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  3. B-Roy

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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    What are you talking about? You can't generate a 4 million TPE (Blake's salary) unless you are giving Blake to them for free. That is something Pritchard (Or any GM with an injury depleted roster) will never do. Especially since Blake is expiring as well.

    You would have to trade him for say, James Jones.
     
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    BTW Chalmers didn't start for the first time all year......
     
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    Well, read through what he wrote. He was proposing Blake for Wright, essentially. Blake to Miami for TPE, then TPE for Wright.
     
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    :NOTMARIS:
     
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    You can't clear cap space by waiving a guy. Players are typically bought out, not waived. A big chunk of cash up front for the player, but less than he'd get over the rest of his contract saving the team money. The team does get a roster spot back to sign someone else.
     
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    Well, the article was a little contradictory. Says Blake has more trade value; but the guy says teams are calling to ask about Miller; that doesn't make sense. Also, in his haste to make a point, the author says Miller has a three year contract, which would hurt his trade value. he fails to point out that the third year is a team option.

    Tonight was one of the only times i have seen almost the entire game (although I missed the first 5 minutes when Miller might have done his best). Anyway, I didn't see any great point guard skills from Miller, his shooting is atrocious, and his defense is not on par with Blake's. I think McMillan will lobby for Miller to be traded over Blake.
     
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    Exactly. I'm STUNNED that the Blazers are saying Miller isn't available. That is ridiculous. We have three point guards. Bayless must play and we need Blake's outside shooting. Miller is the odd man out.
     
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  10. B-Roy

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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    I don't really care which one gets traded. One of Miller/Blake should go so Bayless can play more.
     
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    tell me again why we need Blake's outside shooting if we have Miller, Bayless and Roy at the guard rotation? With Webster able to come off the bench in a Bayless/Roy/Webs combo if you need 3's really badly.

    If you would've said "we need his D", I might've chuckled, but you'd have a case. Shooting 38-111 (34%) from 3 and not even having the Kings stay out on you screams "his 3pt shooting isn't really helping that much".
     
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    you can when he has a team option. By waive him, I mean decline his option.
     
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    ?

    You can't decline Blake's option, he's an expiring contract.

    You had a chance to decline it last off-season, but you picked it up. So you are now stuck with him for the rest of the season.
     
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    I'm glad I gave up buying a Blake jersey two years ago. Hes going downhill fast.
    I heard several blazer fans tonight scream "You suck" when blake missed his first 3point attempt (in front of the sacramento bench).
     
    Nate Dogg, Dec 15, 2009
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    He was talking about Jones--if we were to trade Blake for Jones now, he was saying we could trade Jones after the end of the season, but before June 30, giving the other team an easy way to clear cap space by declining Jones' option. However, the CBA doesn't allow players to be traded after the end of the season if their contract will or could end at 6/30. So, his thesis is incorrect.
     
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    Blake's a fun player when he's the 9th man who sometimes plays backup PG. Then you can root for the guy with little talent that tries hard to succeed. But when he's 3rd on the team in minutes he becomes quite the opposite of fun to root for.
     
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    I just think he had his career last year, and peaked, and came back down to being the Steve Blake he was before last year. That's the Steve Blake I know.
     
    hasoos, Dec 15, 2009
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    Actually you can, if the deal which involves them could also have been split into two separate valid deals in which the TPE would be used alone.

    And this is why that would work.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Dec 15, 2009
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    Wrong. Players with non-guaranteed salaries can be traded after the season and cut before the next season. That's how Cleveland got Shaq, Sasha Pavlovic's contract was mostly non-guaranteed. Same scenario for when the Spurs landed Richard Jefferson, Bruce Bowen and Fabricio Oberto's contracts were mostly non-guaranteed.

    The Blazers had the same opportunity last summer in being able to trade away Outlaw or Blake before their final year options were exercised.
     
    Draco, Dec 15, 2009
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    Re: Chad Ford's Blog: Blake could be the Blazer dealt

    What outside shooting? The 3pt percentage hat has spiraled down to .342?
     
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