SA writer's take on last night's game

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/Spurs_lose_a_real_head-scratcher.html

    Some interesting comments in here.
    Apparently our "depth" is not highly renowned everywhere. Oh well--they'll learn.
    Wow--I didn't realize they shot such high percentages. How the hell did we win again?

    But more interesting to me were some of the comments that followed:
    So this guy basically says that Bayless is another Tony Parker. But wait, there's more:
     
  2. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    I found this very interesting as well:

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    "Bayless did the same thing to the Spurs that Parker has been doing to teams for years. Yet when Parker is agressive, trying to score or create on every possesion some Spurs fan and some sports writers speak negatively and call him a ball hog or shoot first point guard. Point being: Every great point guard takes what the opposition gives him. Great point guards can score or create an opportunity to score on almost every possesion. That's what Bayless did, and that's what Parker used to do."

    I was wondering last night why Parker was not attacking us like he did when Duncan was out early last season. (Or was it the year before?) That Tony Parker was a night mare to guard. I am sure some of our fans will call Bayless a ball hog as well and they may be right. But I have no problem with that. He and Roy can alternate being ball hogs all night long as long as they get their teammates shots too.
     
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    They already have. "Bayless isn't a point guard'
     
  4. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Wow, what an enlightening article. Thanks for sharing it!

    Brings back the classic question: Do the Blazers really need a "pure" PG?
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    The difference between Tony Parker and Jerryd Bayless physically is--besides Jerryd likely being circumcised while Tony probably has his French turtle-neck--is that Bayless is not only quick, but powerful. He's strong enough to post up a PG as well as drive.

    Of course Parker is still the far superior player. If Bayless can become 75% of the player TP is, he's going to be magnificient for this team.
     
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    Hopefully Miller works with Bayless on posting up PGs. If he was able to pass on his post up ability, his 14 million over the next two years would be worth it for that simple fact alone. Bayless has the strength to abuse people on the blocks, like Miller, Billups, etc. Combine that with his speed, and his ability to knock down the outside jumper?
     
  7. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    This.

    If Bayless can add this weapon to his aresenal it will open up a whole new world in terms of his ability to set people up. It's hard to say if he has the requisite court vision and touch on his passes to find cutters through the lane, but I'm sure wings would feast on threes from the ballside corner and wing at least.
     
  8. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Did you guys catch that one pick and roll play with Jerryd and Pendy, when Jeff got two free throws? Or that over the top pass to Aldridge for the lob late in the game? Both were simple setups, but I've never seen Bayless look so comfortable as PG.

    Moreso than a post up game, if he can develop that pass off the dribble, or some courtvision, he'd work perfectly with not only Roy, but also Oden and Aldridge.
     
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    Interesting article. The Spurs shoot 51%, 94% from the line, only have 13 t/o's . . . and they lose to Portland's "JV"? The old Spurs didn't lose to anybody in past years with those kind of numbers. But these aren't the Spurs of old. They aren't a defensive stalwart anymore - they used to smother you into t/o's and forced shots, but last night we got good shots for most of the night. Juwan Howard was getting wide open looks from the FT line. Duncan has clearly lost a step, although he's still effective offensively he's no longer a guy you have to try and move your offense away from. And gone are guys like Bruce Bowen & Robert Horry who just played great team defense. The Spurs decided to get more offensive punch. Instead of Muhammed/Nesterovic, they have Matt Bonner. Instead of Bowen, they have Jefferson/Mason. Add those things together, and it's just not the same team defensively. They are still a pretty good team, hadn't they won 7/8 before last night?

    But please, the Spurs fans that want to fire Pop . . . would you like to trade straight across for Mac? Geez. He's only the best or 2nd best coach in the league. That's just ridiculous.
     
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    There is no doubt in my mind that Bayless will have the occasional bad pass due to getting caught in the air with no where to go. But that is OK because it usually means that he is being aggressive and attacking the basket. I can live with a couple of those a game. But all in all he has shown the ability to make the tough pass. To me Bayless is a better version of Antonio Daniels. And Nate loved playing him at the Point.
     
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    I like what they did with Jarryd last night. He played some PG, but more SG. They basically told him to go do what Brandon does. He did look more comfortable with the ball. Zero t/o's and 7 assists is more impressive than his 31 pts IMO. He played under control for most of the game, which was surprising - I was worried he'd be too jacked up in his 1st start. Just the opposite, it's like the fact that he knew he was going to play settled him down. And that dime he threw to LA was sick. I couldn't believe he threw it over the top in that situation. If they don't hit that play, everybody says "what was he thinking?" (including me)
     
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    just remembering all the hand wringing over Jerryd's game in the Summer League

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    You know my line ABM. Roy, Bayless and Rudy should be our 3 guards. There is a ton of playmaking ability on the floor at all times, there is a ton of gifted offensive player on the floor at all times, and there is a ton of shooting on the floor at all times.

    Would anybody care if we didn't have an 8+ assist per night guy if we got about 18 assist between all 3 guards?

    How dangerous would it be to have 3 guys who are all shooting over 40% from the 3 point line on the court?

    How efficient would it be to have 3 guys shooting in the over 45% from the field out on the floor?

    Efficiency + outrebounding your opponent = wins.

    That was how the 2000 team was built. They could beat any running team in the league easily. They could handle the others due to being used to executing. Built for playoff basketball where there are lots of outside influences causing game stops.
     
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    Great point. The consensus was that he still was not ready. Well he ready now. The guys worked his ass off. And by all accounts from our "homer Blazer Media" he is the type of guy who will continue to be a gym rat and work his ass off.
     
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    It seems to me after reading that article that certain folks in San Antonio are having a hard time coming to terms with the end of the positive play cycle for their team. Their frustrations is from not being used to this. What is sad, is that the writer, is willing to send Popovich up the river due to his frustrations. If there is anything I could impart to that guy, it is how if I could go back in time, and when the Blazers send Rick Adelman packing, is to take that back. All we needed to do was get in a new batch of good players and he would have been an awesome coach to keep for all those years.

    Tim Duncan is in decline.
    Bruce Bowen is gone and played a vital role on that team.
    Manu Ginobili may never be the same player he was, again due to injury.
    Tony Parker simply isn't as good as he was without weapons he used to be surrounded by.

    The biggest mistake they could make is letting Popovich go over this. He just needs some fresh talent, and that, is the GM's job.
     
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    As much as I HATE Sean Elliott as a "color guy" on the TV broadcasts, I give him credit last night for pointing out that SA should not let the game clock run down to 2 seconds. He called it ahead of time that Portland could get the loose ball. And sure enough it happened. Not a wise move on "Pops" part.
     
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    I couldn't stand listening to Elliot. Luckily, I got a Portland feed after half time.

    Was his thought to send it to the FT line the last 20 seconds?
     
  18. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    He looked like shit -- there's no sugar coating it.
     
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    Yes. There was actually 26 seconds left and his take was to stretch the game out by fouling. That 2 seconds was not enough time if you were not assured of getting the rebound.
     
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    Love it. We could even have Mills be our insurance guard in case of injury or if he develops, could turn into a decent rotation player.

    Bayless has been showing that he's a definite keeper. It would be foolish to think otherwise with the way he's been playing lately.
     

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