Most likely Blazer to be traded as of today

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  1. BoomChakaLaka

    BoomChakaLaka Well-Known Member

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    [ranking of players with the highest-to-lowest trade potential]:


    Just curious as to how everyone feels about "Who is the most likely player to be traded?" This is just a slightly different take on the typical "trade idea" Thread.

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    Several factors played into my rankings (and note, the entire roster was ranked from "most likely to be traded" to "least likely."


    Factors:

    Past play

    Recent play

    Contract Status!!

    Postion (1 - 5)

    Team "Need" short term/long term

    Potential "need of other teams"


    With the above considered, I chose RUDY as the number one candidate to be the "most likely to be traded," and Roy to be the least likely.

    With my list of inactive players - same idea. Outlaw ranked as my most likely to be traded and Oden, the least likely.


    I assume that (realistically) only "healthy" players will get moved in the short term. However, an injured player (perhaps?) might be part of a trade, etc.


    Here are my Rankings:

    In order: [of the healthy players] above factors considered:

    Rudy #1

    Blake #2

    Miller #3

    Webster #4

    Cunningham #5

    Howard #6

    Pendergraph #7

    Aldridge #8

    Bayless #9

    Roy #10



    .... and of the injured, who is the most likely to be traded (above factors considered):


    Outlaw #1

    Pryzbilla #2

    Mills #3

    Batum #4

    Oden #5
     
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    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

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    Why Rudy over Blake?
     
  3. BoomChakaLaka

    BoomChakaLaka Well-Known Member

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    Simple!

    Rudy will get us more of what we need;

    Rudy is more expendable (not on an individual vs. individual basis - merely, looking at our roster and weighing out "Rudy's gain vs. loss" and looking at the same scenario with Blake.

    Why is Blake at #2, might actually be another question: My answer: while trading Blake may net us a smaller return, than say Miller - - Blake's expiring contract then comes into play when making my ranking ahead of Miller.
     
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    ....and looking at the "injured list rankings"


    why do I rank "Mills" as less likely to be traded than Pryzbilla?

    1. He's about to become "healthy" while Pryz is out for perhaps an entire year!

    2. Pryz has a soon-to-expire contract that may be attractive

    3. Pryz will most likely never play to the same level as before

    4. Mills is a true PG. And would be worth looking at before considering a trade at this time, over Pryzbilla.


    I think it obvious why I chose Outlaw as the most likely to be traded of all of our injured players....and why I chose Oden as the least likely of the injured players to be traded.
     
  5. BoomChakaLaka

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    Rudy to the Knicks

    Lee to Washington

    Butler to Portland


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    Blake plus rights to Claver to Orlando

    for Gortat



    This follows along my "rankings" of trading our two most likely to be traded players to bring us pieces we need (now and for the future).

    If we need to add more to the pot, we look at adding Outlaw and/or Pryzbilla, etc. and by adding Butler (SF) and Gortat (C), we can part with both.
     
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    My gut says Blake, just because of his half court offense and he hardly attacks the basket like miller does. At least miller will attempt to drive to the basket, get trapped and then kick it out to someone else who takes the shot.
     
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    hmmm rudy for caron?? i think we could get him with out rudy depending on or willingness to take other salary as well
     
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    C'mon, you are better than this.
     
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    what the fuck?

    i really REALLY do think we can get him without rudy depending on our willingness to take on extra salary.
     
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    Amazing the short attention spans people have, and how quickly they lift someone to heights. 4 good games and Blake is back in the good graces.

    Rudy goes on the IR, and all the sudden he's trade bait. Why not trade the older guy who has pretty much peaked and isn't in his early 20's? I really doubt that who we could get for Rudy would be worth trading Rudy.

    It's almost as bad as people already thinking Mills will be anything on this team. He hasn't proven jack shit, so let's not assume he's going to have a role just yet.
     
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    Rudy, Bayless, Batum are the players with high trade value (IMO). One of those players will be packaged with a throw in of Blake, Webster or Outlaw is my best guess.
     
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    LA should be next to Roy considering his PPP status. Moving Bayless has a much higher probability.
     
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    You are completely missing the point of the Thread:

    It is not "who's your favorite Blazer" etc.

    It is "who is most likely to be tradable" - - right now, (and put yourself in the shoes of other GM's and don't be a homer), RUDY has the highest degree of trade value from BOTH the perspetive of other teams as well as our own.


    Do I want to trade RUDY? This is not the Thread for that. This is a "Ranking" of Most to Least likely to be traded....from all perspectives and weighing all factors.


    To sum it up, I feel Rudy and Blake are the most likely to be traded (from the list of healthy or soon-to-return List) and I feel Outlaw and Pryzbilla would be the most likely to be traded (IF!) injured players were to be traded TODAY.


    That is all this thread is about.
     
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    Yes, I too RANK Blake higher than Miller in my "Most Likely to be traded" list!


    I happen to RANK Rudy as even higher than Blake - as it pertains to overall "trade value"
     
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    Not a chance in hell.


    It will take more than Rudy to obtain Butler.
     
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    The trouble is you don't know what the Wizards' goals are in a trade. At face value Rudy =/= Butler, but for a team that probably desperately needs to rebuild and get under the cap as soon as possible, shedding 10 million in guaranteed salary probably isn't a bad start, if they can get a good prospect on a cheap contract in the exchange that's probably closer to reality than you think.

    In this case it would need to be Rudy, Blake and Travis for Butler to make the salaries work, and to give them the cap relief they need.
     
  17. BoomChakaLaka

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    Agree on your perspective of "trade value" but are these players the "most likely to be traded?"


    Rudy ( I say yes. Because we have depth)

    Bayless (he too is increasing in "value" - but are we going to part with him today? I say not as likely as other players, so I have Bayless down further on the list of "most likely to be traded")

    Batum (well, as an injured player, this along drops his "value" - and if healthy today, I believe his value would be much higher, of course - but would the Blazers have him high on their list as "available?" I say not as likely as others above him on my Rankings!)


    Again, this is not about "Highest Trade Value" - it is a list of "Most Likely To Be Traded" weighing as many factors as we can (Today!).
     
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    Understand the thread. All I'm asking of you.
     
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    Good discussion.

    Rudy is a good trade, since his value is pretty good and chances of resigning him are not.

    I still think Blake & Outlaw is the more logical package, since both are expiring and should bring back a decent big. And you would only lose one healthy body. It would also free up more time for Bayless, since Outlaw and Rudy would take some of his minutes upon their return.

    Trading Bayless would get you good return. However, I would only trade him if you are absolutely sure he canNOT be a PG (read: tweener). However, his assist performance recently indicates otherwise. So, I think he should stay.

    If you trade for a C, then you want someone temporary, like Camby, since Oden and Joel will likely be back next year. Otherwise, you would have to trade Joel for a longer-term prospect.
     
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    But LMA would obtain much more in return than Bayless. Therefore I placed LMA higher on my ranking of "Most likely to be traded" granted, very low on the list!
     

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