Merged: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz [Wizards, guns, etc]

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  1. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Wowsers.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-wizards-guns&prov=ap&type=lgns

     
  2. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    Sorry, just now saw this on the Wiz thread.

    Mods, please delete this thread.

    Thanks.
     
  3. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And they called us gangstas when Bassy hid his gun under a pillow on our plane! These motherfuckers straight drew down on each other. In the Army our drill sergeants used to tell us, unless you are ready to pull that trigger, don't pull it out! HOw are these guys not Banned from the league ASAP!
     
  4. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    Fuck That! This deserves it's own thread!
     
  5. hasoos

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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    That is fricking crazy. In the locker room? What like they couldn't wait until they were out partying in the hood after the game to throw down? :)
     
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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    I wonder if there were surveillance cameras?
     
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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    Well how else would they catch those dudes stealing Chris Pauls deoderant in the commercials?:police:
     
  8. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz


    That's a very good point. I think a lot of people point guns at people not knowing the ramifications of it.

    A teacher I had when I was younger (who was a military/war buff, and knew stuff about guns, etc) said to our class that video games have desensitized people when it comes to guns. A lot of people think all you have to do is aim it at someone and that's it. He said that unless you are willing to pull the trigger, which includes aiming and dealing with the consequences, don't point your gun at someone. Or something close to that.

    His point is that people don't seem to understand the power of a gun, and think it's a toy.
     
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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    Madness!
     
  10. hasoos

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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    Oh here we go again. The video games are all responsible again. Get real. Did you ever pause to think for a fact that maybe both guys knew exactly what they were doing, and if they weren't in such a public place, maybe they might have fired? The only thing that might have saved them, is that they thought about those ramifications.
     
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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    I thought about making a thread for this too, but wondered ya'll would think it's too OT. I agree with HCP - it merits a thread on our board.

    What a disaster for the Wizz. Not that trading Arenas was going to happen with his contract, but this pretty much seals the deal on that. They need to blow up that team. There are some serious chemistry issues over there.

    Think about how a team with that kind of talent is 10-20, and we are 21-13 with a mash unit of injuries. The have 3 guys (Arenas, Jamison, Butler) who are 20 ppg scorers. Arenas & Butler are both excellent passers (well, Arenas can be when he isn't chucking it too much) They have guys in the front court (Haywood, Blatche) who can score a little/rebound/block shots. And they have a couple of young guys in Harris and Foye who can come off the bench and provide a spark. Oh, and Boykins can do that as well. They have everything on paper to be a competitive team, but they aren't.
     
  12. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    Yeah pretty much.

    I'm just flabbergasted to be honest, I think we can safely say that chemistry in the locker room is in the shitter. Once your team is to the point of drawing iron to settle locker room disputes there can be no other choice but to blow it up.

    Crazy.
     
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    Showdown at the Wizards Locker Room

    The Wild West Wizards? :cheers:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/01/arenas-crittenton-guns-ga_n_408978.html
     
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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    Nah. my cousins and neighborhood friends all played guns, and "war" and cowyboys and Indians and all of that other shit before video games were nothing but an 8-bit Nintendo or an Atari 2600. We never thought twice about pointing a fake gun at each other. Public hangings used to be a big spectacle in this country a little over a hundred years ago and Romans used to butcher each other in arenas for no other reason than to entertain themselves. Let's be real, human beings are brutish and prone to violence.
     
  15. Kaydow

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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    How bad do you think the fallout will be? Suspensions?

    Maybe the team should switch their name back to the "Bullets"?
     
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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    I believe you missed my point greatly. I did not say that video games are "all responsible" (nor did I even come close to saying that). I said that he was talking about how kids will play video games and not have a real grasp of how a gun works. The aiming, firing and consequences of firing. A lot kids don't have a personal experience with guns outside of video games, and video games don't present a realistic sample of what guns can do.

    It's not saying that video games were the cause of anything, but that for some kids it's their experience.

    It's a reason why the military breaks you down and then builds you up and trains you. They don't want you taking shooting a gun lightly. It's the reason a lot of police, after taking someones life in the line of duty, need counseling. Not that they haven't been trained, but because using a gun is a big deal, not to be taken lightly.

    I don't see how saying that video games (and movies, too) have desensitized some people to guns and violence. It's not saying they are causing an increase, but that it's made it so they're not seen as the powerful weapon it is. To far too many kids (and young adults), they're seen as a toy (in the sense of not respecting it) and a status symbol (that they have no idea how to use).

    A lot of people don't understand the impact of war and gun play, and some of that is because in a video game you see someone getting shot and you can reset. His point was that in real life, there is no reset button and that a lot of people don't understand the power that a gun has. And I don't mean power in the sense of glamor that it has with some cultures in our country.

    There is a separation between what they think will happen and what will. Not that they don't know it'll kill someone, but in a way guns aren't respected because of this.

    His point was that how people don't realize just how powerful a gun is, and the overall impact of war (it was a history class after all). He brought up how during WWI and WWII, there was a lot cases of shell shock (or as it's known now, ptsd) because of the constant barrage of gun, weapons, tanks, etc, and the incredible number of people who died right in front of them.
     
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    Re: Showdown at the Wizards Locker Room

    Mods - merge threads?
     
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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    Then why did you bring it up? You go on to say that you didn't want to blame video games for it, and then you rail on it for 3 more paragraphs with one paragraphs alluding to WW2. Nobody in their right mind believes there is reset button in life, and nobody who uses a gun believes it is a video game. Anybody who has fired a gun knows the difference right away. When that pop goes off, you know the power, you know what it can do. The facts are that humans are, well, human. They go off of their emotions more often than not, and often lead to actions which with a gun, you cannot take back.

    A huge part of the problem if anything, is the problem in this country for anybody to take responsibility for their actions, and always wanting to blame somebody or something else for their actions. Unfortunatley that is the way our culture raises people. Pass the buck.
     
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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    Can you guys make an OT thread about video games/violence? I want to read about the Wizzards ordeal in here.
     
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    Re: OT: Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boyz

    :biglaugh:

    Now that's some funny shit right there!

    Seems odd that GA drew his gun, then JC drew. If Arenas was serious enough to draw first, he kind of pussed out if he didn't pull the trigger when JC picked up his gun. He's damned lucky that JC didn't shoot him. Like others have said, if you are going to pull a gun on someone, you better be ready to use it.

    Go Blazers
     

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