what do they do to act "elitist", then? Since they obviously don't have the accolades, why do you have the opinion that they're in the same ballpark as fans of those other teams (and I'd lump in Red Sox, Celtic, Knicks and Bulls fans older than 25 in that group.)
Every team has elitists fans. Beaver fanatics are just as elitist and annoying as the Duck fanatics. That's why they're called fanatics. Blazer fanatics are elitist and annoying to other fans for the same reasons. Because we feel like we're entitled to the refs calling fouls against the other team etc.
"They", the "majority" of the fans I've interacted with, come across with a holier-than-thou attitude that rubs me the wrong way. "They" inflate their team's relative quality beyond reason. "They" also act, personally, in an elitist manner. Keep in mind this is very subjective, as it's based on my personal experiences. I'm not interested in providing examples. And I'm not of the mind to delve into why "they" act the way they do. All I know is I enjoy getting together with the majority of my Oregon State fans' friends and have a difficult time hanging with my Oregon fans' friends. I don't know any Red Sox, Celtic, Knicks or Bulls' fans, so I don't have an opinion on that.
Funny you say that. I told my brother that if they played 10 times UO would win 6 or 7. Pryor had the game of his life. What "mistakes" are you referring to? Ohio State played their best game of the year. 1 turnover that ended up being like a punt. The two passes near the end zone Pryor missed he had heavy pressure on him. Don't act like it's out of character for the guy to miss a few throws for crying out loud. He still made a lot more than he has ever before. Plus his misses didn't result in t/o's today. And some of his mistakes even went well for him today. Oregon didn't get beat up at the line of scrimmage (3.0 YPC for OSU and 5.4 for UO) Did they underestimate Pryor? Or did Pryor have the game of his life? Time will tell. Looking at the Bowl games, you're right - the Big Ten outplayed the Pac-10. Don't discount the overall body of work though. The 5th place team of the Pac-10 beat these Buckeyes this season. So did Purdue, who the Ducks beat.
I'm sure you're right. Speaking truthfully though, I haven't come across any Beaver fanatics though that annoyed me in the way that the Ducks' fans that I crossed paths with have. I didn't mean to touch any nerves. I was only giving a personal observation and reason why I enjoy rooting against the Ducks. Maybe I should seek counseling. My hatred for the Ducks is now bordering on a fanaticalness generally reserved for the most sinister sports institutions/teams.
If you like the Beavers more than the Ducks, you're going to have a hard time being as annoyed with a crazy Beaver fan as a crazy Duck fan. Every fan base has their share of unrealistic homers, I don't think OSU and UofO differ much in that department.
Not really. This season before bowl games the Big 10 was 4-7 against other BCS conferences and 4-3 against other BCS conference bowl teams, while the PAC 10 was 6-5 and 6-3. The PAC 10 was also 3-2 against the Big 10 this year straight up. And Oregon can certainly beat all 3 of those teams you mentioned.
The Bowl Games were not an indication of the quality of football that was played in the Pac-10 this season.
Well you didn't pick your Oregon fans' friends very well then. Because I've picked OSU fans that are just as chill as my Oregon friends. But I've also run into some H.O.R.R.I.B.L.E. Beaver fans. Just horrible. Maybe branch out of your elitist/annoying Oregon fan friends and I think you'd be surprised--we're not all like that. Not even 10% of Oregon fans are like you think they are. I don't know I just don't like generalizations. "My 6 Oregon fan friends are annoying as hell." "I know HATE the Ducks!" Despite my hate for some Beaver fans I was still rooting for the Beavers to win in their bowl game. Simply because both are representing Oregon as a whole. Unfortunately this year Oregon was 0-2 in bowl games.
Oh. I wasn't speaking solely of Pryor, but the entire OSU team. And by "mistakes" I wasn't referring to turnovers. I wasn't clear. I was meaning that their offense would be even more efficient and defense even more limiting. OSU played a nearly flawless game, but a top-10 team against a top-20 team, IMO could get even more dominating. I'm not just looking at the Bowl games. I'm looking at the entire body of work. The Big Ten had three teams with only two losses and a fourth team with three losses. Four of those teams were ranked no lower than 24th. Three of them are currently ranked 8th, 10th, and 11th in the nation. All of those rankings should move up with the exception of Iowa, which we'll know more about later. Compare that with the body of work from the Pac-10. It's not flattering. Oregon's ranking is inflated by an easier schedule. Single games, especially early in the year, mean very little to me.
That won't stop them. If you didn't watch the games all year, and only watched the Bowl Games, that would seem to be the reasonable conclusion (that the Big 10 is better than the Pac 10) We know better.
Interesting. Thanks for those numbers. When I have time I'll have to review which BCS conferences/teams the Big Ten and Pac 10 played. There are of course worse conferences and worse teams within a conference so throwing out those numbers mean less to me until I put them in more of a context.
Quick question though. If the PAC 10 is the superior conference, why did it's champion lose to the Big 10 champion? Shouldn't they have beaten them handedly? Are the BCS rankings so far from reality to have the #8, 10, 11, and 24th best teams in the nation in the Big Ten? Where would you rank all of these teams now that their seasons are over? It seems that you're ranking teams by a different criteria than the rest of the nation.
Having a differing opinion? I watched the game with a Beaver fan who said the exact same thing, except he said 8 out of 10. The same Beaver fan said he thought the Beavers would probably beat USC 6 out of 10 times after their game in October. Even though I'm not sure if I agreed, I certainly didn't think it was elitist. If a little comment like that causes people think all Oregon fans are elitist then I might have a different definition of elitist. It appears like there is an extreme sensitivity that easily gets some people riled up about Oregon.
you've identified the problem I've read many a post from Beaver fans this year about how annoying/cocky Duck fans are, yet that just hasn't been what I've been reading here. Recently I reread every single Duck Beaver thread from this past season to confirm this. A vast majority of what trash talking went on here came from Beaver fans. About the only stuff that went the other way was in the Civil War joke thread when tongues were firmly in cheek. I've no doubt that there are many annoying jerks in the Duck fan base (just as there is for every team) but this is not being demonstrated here. Confronting the fans that are annoying you rather then those that aren't would make more sense. btw... the better team won yesterday. STOMP
I'm not positive the better team won. They executed better, to be sure. But as I've said, Navy exploited OSU's D for 4 TDs while not even really throwing the ball. If Masoli was having a bad day, UO had a couple of stud runners to grind it out. I can't remember, would the Blount fumble have put the Ducks up 24-16 if it was a TD? That's a pretty decent game-changer right there. Good job to tOSU, but it's not like they're that much a better team than the Ducks. They executed at the end when UO didn't.
