If Jay only did well because of the TV stations, why did Conan immediately lose the entire gap Jay had over Dave?
Conan should go back to writing and producing for The Simpsons...now there's a formerly great franchise that's been destroyed.
Conan, classy as always, got it right. But I suspect NBC never intended to push back The Tonight Show. I think we can all agree that Jay Leno is a fuck, right? I see this blowing up in his elongated face.
Nope I'm fairly certain that this is all Leno. Dude is failing in his current time slot so I'm sure he begged to get his old job back and with Conan doing less than stellar, NBC decided to side with him. If Leno were any kind of a decent human being, he would have retired and let Conan take over per the original agreement. We already knew he was a piece of shit for sticking around and undercutting him with a 10pm show. Now he's trying to steal Conan's job. Someone should start a petition to get that unoriginal bastard off the air.
It'll tank. Conan's audience won't watch, Leno's audience is too old to keep up with the changes, and curious viewers will tune back in just to remind themselves he sucks and then not watch again.
I've always been a fan of Conan and at least liked Leno, at least until this stunt. Leno is a total asshole for accepting this change and essentially screwing Conan out of his new job. Leno's horrible primetime performance is the reason that not only all the NBC affiliates have suffered a ratings hit at 11pm, but also a huge reason for the Tonight Show's mediocre performance. Leno basically screwed every program airing after him, and then has the balls to accept this new gig, knowing full well he's further fucking Conan over. Unlike Leno, Conan has class, refusing to screw Jimmy Fallon over by accepting the later time-slot, even though we all know Fallon shouldn't even be on TV. I won't be watching Leno again. What a fucking dick.
I guarantee Leno's ratings will go back to where they were when he goes back. People love that guy, obviously not the type that posts at a basketball forum, but women and older people love the guy.
I wonder what kind of deal Conan will get from Fox? It would be nice if Conan got a Letterman type deal that no only includes hosting a late night show but also allows him to develop TV shows as well. While Letterman's only hit has been Everyone Love's Raymond I could see Conan putting out some funny shows.
Apology accepted. One less fan. I feel like Conan. Obviously, it's because Conan would have done even worse without the station difference. ----------- More thoughts: So many talk shows, so little choice. They're all the same. Leno and Letterman yell like carnival hucksters. This isn't vaudeville. The only recent quiet type in the Carson mold was Chevy Chase, and that was about 18 years ago, and he lasted 6 weeks. Remember when Letterman could have taken the time slot of ABC's Nightline with Ted Koppel, and he declined because he didn't want to destroy that show. Leno has no such class toward Conan. This is the second time Leno stole someone's show. The Carson show was supposed to go to Letterman, but scheming backstage machinations gave it to Leno. If this is the biggest TV mistake of the last 10 years, then the biggest one of the previous decade may have been when NBC replaced Carson with Leno instead of Letterman. Because of grey hair, Leno and Letterman lose a generation. I never understood why they and Carson didn't dye their hair. Carson dyed it a ridiculous silver in the early 70s, but he stopped. Like fellow Harvardite Dick Cavett, O'brien stutters and appears uncomfortable. It makes viewers feel the same. Cavett was much worse, way too intellectual. Comcast buys NBC, and this happens. Figures.
We will have to agree to disagree. You're the first person I have ever heard say that. Without proof, I don't believe it.
Leno backer Paul Reiser published an outlandish editorial at HuffPost today... read it if you like to be condescended to. Seems like sides are forming now. Leno has Jerry Seinfeld, Reiser, his established audience, and I suppose a cadre of old comedians and celebrities who have been with him forever. O'Brien has essentially every interested person under 40, Patton Oswalt (below), and I'm sure a lot of the SNL people at NBC. Obviously acknowledging Jimmy Fallon and Carson Daley in this process will get them on his side as well. So far Craig Ferguson and David Letterman have also chimed in with pro-Conan, anti-NBC sentiment as well. [video=youtube;-Ei4rgiDveY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ei4rgiDveY[/video]