Because one if helping an in conference team, and one is not. If Jamison goes to a contender, you don't want to face him several times per season.
Then joel at 7 million, and injured, and being an expiring the following year, and 30 likely isn't the talent they are looking to get back either.
Maybe they want a little of both. Maybe they want both expiring contracts and talent. Draft picks are also in the equation. If you make a trade that you think makes you a contender for years to come, those 1st round draft picks aren't so important for the next few years. If I was Washington, I would ask for expiring contracts, some young cheap talent, and maybe a pick or two to build with. Since they are going to be rebuilding anyhow, they probably want to stockpile picks.
I agree, that is what I would ask for as well. And in order for us to equal salary amounts, we are throwing in parts(Joel or Andre) that don't fit towards either of those goals. If they traded Jamison for Z, JJ Hickson, and Cleveland's first, they get a pick, a late one, but still, a pick, a young player, and an expiring. If they trade him to us, we're unlikely to want to include any of Batum, Bayless, Fernandez. So you're adding in Joel for one, so they are taking on extra salary, and then giving them a late pick, better than Cleveland's but still late, and a prospect like Cunningham or Mills. Both of who Hickson is probably better than. Our package doesn't look as nice. Just saying going for Haywood and Jamison makes a package much mroe difficult, and not as attractive to Washington as other teams can likely give them.
Yes but we have other pieces. Like a guy named Claver.....just throwing it out there. Not sure how much he is worth, to tell the truth.
Right, but again, is Claver, to them, worth 7 million dollars? I understand they get Joel out of it as well, if he is healthy toplay, but that's a big chunk of change for a rebuilding club to pay for an unknown prospect.
He would have to be a "chunk" of a bigger trade. All we can do is "throw our lure" and see if the Wiz bite. The worst thing that happens is, nothing.
Aldridge for Jamison and Haywood or Jamison and McGee? We can throw in Blake too. Aside from Nate, Aldridge is the weak link on this team. Jamison and McGee/Haywood would really solidify the frontline especially if we can keep Pendergraph and Cunningham. I have finally lost faith in LMA ever being what we need. If he can't coexist with OR without Oden on the floor then there is a problem and I don't want to hear about out of position play. I've seen Kindergartners who "get in the paint" more the LMA. I'd also be interested in Caron if we could get him. P.S. someone called me on it so let me be clear. I wouldn't REALLY trade LMA for Jamison, but I might pretend to if I were KP to send LMA a message that he needs to step it up.
You don't trade Aldridge for a guy who might be in the league for maybe another year or two at most before he retires.
Well, you gave up on the team as a whole back in late November, so giving up on LMA now doesn't seem like a big worry.
Oh, I agree, throw it out there and hope for the best. Throw in smaller prospects and hope something happens.
Well, not much has changed since then except for some real heart show by Bayless and Webster. Roy is finally back up to par, but Aldridge has clearly regressed. Your opinion means as much to me as mine does to you. . Also it was post the soul crushing Oden injury and after having lost Trout which seems bigger after Oden then it did when he first went out. That was a brief loss of faith / overload of misery in regards to the team. My lack of faith in Aldridge has been a multi-year thing. I've noticed his best games are almost invariably losses for the team. The only game that made my heart go pitter patter this year for LMA was when he and Oden dominated. Of course that drove Roy nuts...
Fair enough, I would rather gut the team for Lebron leaving PG Bayless, SG Rudy, SF LeBron, PF Pendergraph/Cunningham, C Oden. Point is the biggest mistake aside from RLEC not being traded is clearly the monster Aldridge contract. So much for it inspirng him and making him feel supported or whatever.
He has, but he is also pretty banged up right now. I have been down on Aldridge as well. But I recognize he is hurt, and I also recognize that several players who were having fairly bad years have turned their games around in the weeks as chemistry has grown. Miller and Webster being prime examples.
I've always thought Webster could turn it around if he got his head on straight. Maybe they should send Aldridge to Webster's "mystery" trainer. Point is, Aldridge needs to step it up to justify that contract and he has been killing me recently. Also Aldridge not working with Oden was a mind blower for me, on paper those two were made for eachother. Roy and Oden will require a good coach (Adelman) or getting through to Greg that he needs to get off the block when Roy is looking to penetrate and follow Roy to the hoop instead of always setting up shop down low. I still feel LMA is the most tradeable asset we have on the team. The Jamison thing was hyperbole to show that a broken down old man seems preferable atm. True that he is injured but that didn't stop Roy from dropping as many points as Kobe with 1/3 the shots.
Yea, but you know, there were a whole lot of players that weren't working well early season. Like most of the team. Blake was throwing doughnuts. Roy was scoring in the teens. Miller looked lost. Things are turning around.
To paraphrase to the point of meaninglessness a great quote from Darth Vader "I find your lack of lack of faith disturbing..." Just kidding. I actually find it inspiring. I just haven't seen much go right recently in the world and when my escape from reality (Blazers) suddenly became MORE depressing then alot of reality that was about all I could take. Been watching more games recently and love the heart from Bayless, Webster, Miller and the stepping it back up from Roy. I missed the Bucks game so I can't comment on that.
One guy I thought about but I don't think we can get, who I think would be a tremendous fit here, is Joaquim Noah. The Anti-Lamarcus.
