You're right. Rudy and Nic make about 2.4 million combined. Haywood makes 6 million. Not even close. Outlaw or Blake would have to be added to get the salaries close enough.
What I posted is what Wheels said was offered to KP. If there is a filler, I'm unsure of who it would be. Maybe our extra cap space is enough to absorb the difference.
Yeah I was just kidding... it's a terrible offer. It would be one thing of the name "Caron Butler" was attached to that offer, but they think Haywood is worth Batum AND Rudy? EG needs to lay off that weed.
webster is our small forward... batum isnt even close on offense or rebounding. and in all honesty websters defense is just as good. if we can do batum, blake or outlaw for heyward... its a no brainer for this year and next year. heyward would give us a legit shot at advancing deeeep into playoffs. batum is nothing to lose sleep over
I love Martell...He is my second favorite player on the team and I have defended him in multiple threads when people have bashed him but Batum is much better on defense and I expect there to be a great battle between those two for minutes later on this year and next year. Batum is going to be an incredible player in a few years when his offensive game is more polished...He isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
This is a wake-up call to Blazer fans, and probably a fair reflection of how the rest of the league sees the Blazers' young players. There is a strong possibility Batum is never more than a nice role-player. If healthy, Rudy is a nice scorer off the bench who might be a marginal starter. Until he proves the back injury isn't going to be a chronic problem, many teams will be leery of him. (and with good reason) Assuming KP even wants to make a deal, his best assets may be the expiring deals for Blake and Outlaw.
oh and I love Haywood but why do we need to make some crazy trade to fill the center position when Pendergraph & Howard are doing just fine and we just beat a team with two legit centers.
Reminds me of going into any of the stores going out of business. Signs and advertisments say "Discount Prices!" only to find the same crap no one bought in the first place for the same price. This is consistent with EG's thinking. Severely overpaid Arenas and Jamison. Arenas was so overpaid he thought he could get away with having multiple unregistered guns in his locker. With the #5 pick, he traded it for a one year rental in Miller and a guard that will be lucky to get an offer above the MLE. For a team that will be drafting early, the Wiz will be paying a huge luxury tax bill. We did not trade for Crash because they insisted on Batum. Do not think his value has change in KP's eyes that now he is only worth a one year stop gag at C. Think it is going to take a kings ransom to pry Rudy from KP as well. Personally, I am going to enjoy watching the times when Batum, Webster, and either of Greg or Joel are on the court together.
You know that may be what they offered, but come on folks, we know these are negotiations, and both sides start at the extreme and work towards a middle ground. Then the Wizards go out and find out what they can get around the league, and we talk again, and that repeats several more times before any deal is consumated. The answer is always in the middle of the two extremes somewhere. We bid low. They ask high. Just like buying a fucking house.
That, in my mind, was his most egregious mistake. How the hell can you pass on a chance @ Rubio for Randy frickin Foye?!
Holy crap, that is a trade you'd expect a fan to make, and not a GM. MAYBE you do that trade if it includes a swap of 1st round picks (assuming the Wizards have one?) and doesn't include Batum AND Rudy. And even then, it makes no sense. That's not to say that Haywood is a bum, but you're talking about trading 2 really good prospects for a guy who's in his 9th year and has an ending contract and is 30. Why would we trade for a rental of a big man, who could leave at the end of the year and won't all the sudden make us a serious contender? Not that I expect any trade would, this season, make us a serious contender. Plus, if they really wanted him, why would they lose 2 players who are under contract (and younger and have a much bigger upside) for a player who if they wanted they could sign this off season? It just makes no sense to potentially lose Rudy and Batum for 40 games of a big man. Do the Wizards think we're the Grizzlies and they're the Lakers? And there is no need to or reason to trade Rudy or Batum right now. The team could eventually have a 3 guard lineup of Roy, Jerryd and Rudy. Batum and Webster can share SF minutes, and eventually you could trade one of them if it was necessary. Roy should be limited to about 35 minutes, and there is 61 minutes to split between the other 2 (they could get another PG who gets spot minutes too). As much as I like Travis, I think Pendergraph is a significantly better long term backup PF for the team than Travis is. Yes, Eric, Travis scores more and "hits game winners", but he takes away minutes from smarter, better POSITIONAL players who do more than just score. Pendergraphs size and rebounding is vital to a backup PF. Look at how Martell has played recently. He's not just scoring, he's defending better (block shots does not = better defense), and he's rebounding. It would make more sense to trade away players who are in the final years of their contracts or there are other players who are on the team that have more all-around skills. In this case, Blake and Outlaw are the two most logical trade able assets. this trade idea is an incredibly stupid trade idea. So they trade the backup SG and (returning backup) SF for a C we don't necessarily need that bad?
I'd only throw in both Batum and Rudy if the package coming back was both Haywood and Butler from the Wiz. We'd still need to throw in Blake, TO and Pryz to make the numbers work though. A lineup of Andre/Roy/Butler/LMA/Haywood could do some real damage in the West though.
The same way you pass up Brandon Roy for Randy frickin Foye. Let it be known - all GMs are not geniuses. BNM
Switched horses AGAIN? Only in your brain. You were saying Nic was our sf a week ago, didn't you? His name is Haywood. When Joel and Greg come back, you'd be here whining that KP created a log jam at C. Go Blazers
