Skelton opposes repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell'

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/76427-skelton-opposes-repeal-of-dont-ask-dont-tell

    Skelton opposes repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell'
    By Roxana Tiron - 01/15/10 02:30 PM ET

    The leading House Democrat on military policy said Friday that he opposes repealing the law that bans openly gay people from serving in the military.

    Seventeen years ago, Rep. Ike Skelton (D-Mo.) played a major role in crafting the controversial law known as "Don't ask, don't tell." When President Bill Clinton wanted to lift the ban preventing gay people from joining the military, Skelton opposed the move. The end result was a compromise under which gay service members would conceal their sexual orientation.

    Now, after President Barack Obama pledged during his campaign and first year in office to repeal the law, Skelton finds himself on the opposite side once again.

    "I am personally not for changing the law," he said during a C-SPAN "Newsmakers" interview that will air Sunday.

    Because the military is engaged in two major conflicts, in Afghanistan and Iraq, changing the law would create "disruption" that can cause some "serious problems," Skelton said during the interview.

    He said the full House Armed Services Committee won't hold a hearing on the repeal of the law. Rather, the Personnel subcommittee will hold the hearing at some point this year.

    Skelton also said he would oppose efforts to repeal the law in Congress — setting the stage for a potentially intense debate within his own committee with Democrats who want to see the law repealed.

    Meanwhile, Skelton's Senate counterpart, Carl Levin (D-Mich.), said that the Senate Armed Services Committee will hold a hearing on the issue at the end of January.

    Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Friday that he and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen are prepared to testify before the Senate.
    Gates said at a press briefing that there are continuing conversations within the Pentagon about "implementing the president's intent."

    Obama has come under increasing pressure from gay-rights advocates to move on the repeal. Gay-rights advocates are eyeing the change in law for this year, but it is unclear how Obama will proceed. The Pentagon has moved slowly on the issue and there have been reports of internal dissent on how fast changes to the law should be instituted.
     
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    What a disgrace this man is.
     
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    Just another homophobe.
     
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    I'm not for "don't ask, don't tell", but if it's between that and open homosexuality without segregation, then I guess it's the lesser of two bad situations.

    Is this man a "disgrace" because of what he believes, what he's done about it, or because he won't cave to the President?
     
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    There's nothing wrong with open homosexuality. The same kinds of arguments were made when segregating the armed forces in the first place, and they were proven to be bogus.

    The man is a disgrace both because of his homophobia and that he's got the power (and chooses) to mess with people like this.
     
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    So do you support gay marriage as well?
     
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    Of course. It's not my thing, but it's not up to me to say what's someone else's, ya know?
     
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    Of course. Why the fuck should we ever be regulating something like marriage in the first place? The only regulation that should be in place is how old somebody has to be when they are married, which should not contradict rape laws.
     
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    <hysterical hypocritical argument> SO YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF PEOPLE MARRYING FARM ANIMALS, THEN????????
     
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    It's not currently illegal in America, so I'm against regulating it.
     
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    I'm in favor of legalizing gay marriage. I also recognize that Skelton doesn't represent me, so whatever I might think of his political stance on a political issue doesn't really matter. :)

    Further, while I am no expert on military matters (nor, for that matter, marriage) I think there are more legitimate reasons for military restriction on homosexuality than for society at large.

    Ed O.
     
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    I would love to know what you think those reasons are.
     
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    Me too.

    This should be good. :lol:
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Well, imagine if during a torture session in the American prison in Afghanistan, two torturers start making whoopee when the Afghan guy is about to crack while he's not being tortured, just having his head held underwater. It could cost us valuable information. Next time the Afghans defend themselves against the occupation army, they might kill one of our guys.

    Or imagine if after we bomb a house with a family in it to get at one guy, the two generals who are supposed to lie to the media that everyone who died was a terrorist start making whoopee at the press conference. It might cost us lives later.

    Or imagine if once we finally conquer Afghanistan and send in the carpetbaggers to convert the country to capitalism, the beancounters reporting the profits make whoopee at the shareholders' meeting. It could give Warren Buffett a heart attack.
     

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