Massachusetts going from Blue to Brown?

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  1. KingSpeed

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    Ugh. How did this happen? Intelligent responses please. I haven't been following it closely enough so what swayed the election so dramatically from one side to the other?
     
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    Except you forget one thing, Denny. It was never a super-majority and you know that. You're smarter than that. For one thing, you had Big Ego Joe who loves to play "I'm a Dem" but votes conservative. You had lots of blue dog Democrats who voted conservative. You even had one switch parties. These were people who knew Obama was going to sweep into power, that Bush was despised..yes, despised, and decided to ride a political wave in to power. No big surprise there.

    So everyone then thinks "Well, hey, this is automatic. Dems can do anything they want." That's like saying "Hey, the colors rule the spectrum. They can do red all day long." until blue and green and yellow have a say. The GOP is a very small tent, at best a wig-wam, where only a couple of people are allowed inside. The Dems are a huge tent where you walk in and start bare knuckle fighting.
     
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    big money baybee!! unbelievable.
     
  4. The_Lillard_King

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    Here is what is wierd to me, posters seem to celebrate that things aren't going smooth in the country right now. Like this is some golden chance for the republican party to get more power.

    I don't care who has the power, I want this country to get back to being prosperous. This isn't good that the American public is disasstified (if that is what is going on) with the current state of the country.

    You know I wasn't a Bush fan . . . really couldn't stand the guy at the end. But I never wished his policies wouldn't work or that he would fail . . . because that only reflects poorly on America.

    I understand the vote in Mass and think it might make sense, but to get giddy over what is going on right now . . . losing perspective, IMO.
     
  5. blazerboy30

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    I don't see anybody here that is "celebrating that things aren't going smooth in the country".

    I see people glad that the American public doesn't want this healthcare bill passed, and is taking action to stand up to the Democrats trying to ram it down our throats.

    I see people glad that the American public is realizing the massive debt and spending being racked up isn't good for the country, especially in the long run.

    I see people glad that the American public is concerned about the rapid growth of the government and is voting against it.

    But sure, go ahead and spin it as an "anti-Obama", or a "wanting the country to fail" thing.
     
  6. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    It was a referendum on President Obama's agenda.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    It really doesn't matter, I have lost all faith in the politicial process, both parties, and all politicians in general. I hated Bush and everything he stood for, only to vote in a guy who doesn't seem to have the gnards to get anything done. Everybody just has their own agenda, nobody cares for physcal responsibility, and nobody can ever change the system because big companies have too much money and influence. I have given up.
     
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    I totally agree, and while this is true, you still have left ideoligies and i have right ideoligies, and so we both still care....
     
  10. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I care about Liberty.
     
  11. The Professional Fan

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    This.

    But at the same time, I get blasted from friends and family for my stance. Like, I'm supposed to stand for something and fight for something and it's shameful to just give up. "You can't think that way!" But to me, is there any thing left, or anyone left, to believe in? It's all the same. It's all broken. It's all corrupt. It's all so fucked up that I feel like I'm pushing ropes no matter the candidate or the topic.

    Is this really the WRONG way to feel? Is it REALLY better to believe in something and fight for something? I just don't know anymore.
     
  12. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    You can give up or you can fight against the system. I am personally troubled by the profligate spending by both parties and the increasing entitlement culture in this country. I have a kid, so there's simply no way I'll ever stop fighting.
     
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    But to me fighting against the system would be to never vote for either party because I don't believe (fully) in either one. I believe in parts of each, but I don't believe either will ever get any thing done. I can vote for a IDEA but I don't feel like I'm voting for ACTION.

    I understand your stance regarding children. My wife and I are trying to have a kid now, and I'm sure my position in this world will change upon the birth of a child.
     
  14. BLAZER PROPHET

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    Good luck. I notice the kiddies are out. And they're clearly drugged up.
     
  15. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Don't let either party serve up your candidate. Find one you like and support them.

    As for having a kid, it completely changes your world view. It's the reason I'm so anti-big-government. We're writing checks to make our lives a bit easier now that our kids and grandkids are going to have to pay. I don't understand the mentality of forcing generations after me to pay for stuff I want.
     
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    sorry, I didn't learn anything from the last election... I must be really stupid eh?

    the intent of Gergen's question was clear. He was saying this was Teddy's seat and are you really not going to honor his legacy? This is a common line of questioning for journalists right down to sports journalist saying how are you ever going to fill so-n-so's shoes? They don't mean this literally like how will his size 11 cleats fit when you're a size 13, it's just to get the conversation rolling having the new guy reflect on his noted predecessor. The stock answer for the new jock is to say, I'm not the departed legend and can only do my best with whats before me taking things one day at a time with this opportunity. This is essentially how Brown handled it.
    you and FOX news
    :rolleyes2: more of you claiming superiority defending your outrage over nothing. Whatever dude

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  17. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Since you asked, the answer is pretty clear.

    And Scott Brown basically said, "Fuck his legacy. It has nothing to do with Ted Kennedy and everything to do with the people of Massachusetts."

    We'll agree to disagree.

    Aw, no answer? Nice red herring.

    No superiority. More experience. I see once again you have no answer.
     
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    sure, whatever you say

    you're filling the PapaG void nicely

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  19. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    You keep on labeling. I guess you think bringing heat without light works for you.
     
  20. 44Thrilla

    44Thrilla cuatro cuatro

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    what are you talking about? Massachusetts has elected plenty of Republicans to statewide office.
     

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