I watched a documentary on this type of stuff. Why some doctors abort babies when they are passed the embryo stage is beyond me. This doctor was talking about how this one baby grabbed the camera he had up in there to monitor something. That shit would traumatize me. That doctor is heartless.
Well it is legal to take a dog to a shelter (adoption home) because they can not take care of it. Then at the dog shelter, if it is not adopted in a certain amount of time, it will be put down. If the dog attacks someone, it can be put down. IMO, yes it is, because they never know they were alive to die, if they are not self aware. It's the same logic behind pulling the plug on a "vegetable." I would not want to have an abortion. I think I am far enough along in my life I could take care of a child if I had to, but I don't want a child for a while still. But if I was younger and had some kind of lapse in judgement or what not, I want that option.
you're ignoring my serious question, did you talk to your own kids. It is a strong part of your argument, no? parents talkign to their kids, not schools?
And I told you: I think it's an anecdote that does nothing to illuminate or educate about the issue. I understand that you like the spot. That's fine. Well, some of us would like parents who have learned to think for themselves, rather than have their lives dominated by their parents until age 18. I shouldn't have used "we." I do see it as an obvious good thing, but clearly it's not something everyone believes.
I am asking you what age you talked to your kids about the details of sex. Perhaps I should say, did you talk to your kids by 14?
Then, it'll do just fine, just fine, mixed amongst the other Super Bowl commercials. Personally, I don't think any of would like dominating parents. I hear what you're saying, though. I'm just net keen on putting the onus on our teachers, either. In the old days, they had such a thing as extended family. Pretty cool stuff right there.
WARNING GROSS: my grandmother who is 90 now, told a story about how she thought she was dying at age 12, when she had her period for an entire year. People do not talk about a lot of things that they take for granted as being logical. ie: "I didn't have my period until i was 16 so why would my daughter have hers when she's 11 or 12?" Or "instead of having a sex, why don't you get your sexual tension out through masturbation" or "pulling out is not a safe form of sex, but here are some condoms" or "you might make bad decisions, like sex without condoms, if you choose to get drunk, which you hide from me"
Well, I don't know about putting the onus on the teachers. I think the most effective guidance is at home. But what individual parents choose to talk about is highly variable. I don't mind a secondary education (which may be primary in cases where parents don't address it, but that's better than nothing IMO) from school on sex, its responsibilities and its possible pitfalls. Extended families are interesting. My family comes from a tradition (in India) of extended families...but having lived in the US all my life, I never experienced that. It was very much the "nuclear family."
yeah, this raises a good point. Schools legally have to inform the parents if there is going to be sex education, I remember waivers being signed. Think of that as "Time to give my version of the sex talk before they do." Schools are pretty good about just grossing kids out with STIs. They very rarely talk about morals, so it shouldn't interfere at all with educating what is important to you.
No it isn't. Most people in that state at some point made their own choice(s) about life, their friends and family and who would be responsible for their life down the road. Additionally, there are many definitions of "self aware" that could be applied to newborns and older. Using "self awareness" as the criteria for somebody's right to life is a bad idea.
What it boils down to for me, is that the kid deserves a good life if he's going to be brought into it. I can't see how that is possible if the parents feel the need to have an abortion. I mean, what does that say about what the parents think of their own ability to provide? Will that mentality not translate to the kid?
I feel bad that there will be children brought into unfortunate lifestyles and tough situations. I wish the parents had been more responsible when they had the opportunity to make THAT choice. But our constitution never guarantees a person anything more than life, liberty and the pursuit. It would be interesting to take a poll of people living the bad, tough lifestyle you are envisioning. I bet most would still rather be alive. Why shouldn't the aborted get that choice?
I see threads like this: http://sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133585 and wonder how anyone can expect women to be abstinent. When some people realize that women are people and have mostly the same thoughts, wants, and desires, they'll actually get laid.
